Evidence for the bible prophecies and archeology?

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I went to this judgment house program at my friends house. And It said that supposedly 4000 of the 5000 bible prophecies have came true, and the end times prophecies are being fulfilled (7 yr peace treaty, etc). And that the bible is supported by archaeological findings. I don't necessarily believe it, but i want to know how accurate these statements are. And please support your evidence and where it came from. Thanks
 
I can point out tons and tons of prophecy that misses...then you'll go through all kinds of mental gymnastics to tell me why it does.

At best prophecy is only impressive if it meets all three conditions.
1- Is clear and unambiguous --- if it has to be explained it ain't
2- Isn't about common event --- saying there will be fighting in the holy land or earthquakes is silly, there always is
3- It hits 100% --- the stuff in the Bible clearly does NOT.

I mean let's face it, when is this one going to happen?
Revelation
12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
 
Those alleged biblical prophecies are so vaguely worded that they can be interpreted to fit the circumstances.

There have been many fiction books that cite actual historical facts and events. That does not mean that the entire book is true.
 
There are loads of prophecies some of which are bound to come true by the laws of probability and also by the vague way a lot of them are worded. All the archaeological findings show is that places and civilizations mentioned in the bible did exist not that any of the events actually happened. ie. there is no evidence for a world wide flood and of course never will be and none for the parting of the red sea apart for the tsunami that occurred about that time that would have caused something like that to occur in the reed sea. There is no evidence that the Israelites escaped from Egypt at the time or that the Egyptians chased them. There is however some slight evidence that the Israelites who eventually occupied Canaan originally came from Canaan but were different tribe to the Canaanites. So rather than coming from Egypt they came our of.Canaan and then after spending time looking for a new homeland went back in again slaughtering the Canaanites and several other tribes on the way. Led by Moses of course a really nasty piece of work he was
 
I do not know the number, but The Bible IS the ONLY prophetic book with a 100% track record, and pure, true science VALIDATES The Bible at every encounter. One has to want to be "blind" not to see it unfolding every day. As America has done to Israel, is just one book that shows the hand of protection over Israel, and several films and personal accounts from the "enemies", seeing hands that cover the sky, several tanks taking out several battalions of Syrian tanks, the list goes on. Many are not specifically mentioned in scripture, but they are counted under the promises of protection given by YHWH.
One of the places I go is Creation Moments, and another is He That Has An Ear :: Introduction. , Eternal Endings, there are many. Remember, scripture tells us that the reading of many books is wearisome.
 
Check your friends religion out!

Christians need to condone all the immoral and deceitful Bible stories otherwise Christianity won’t work for them!

The CHRISTIAN Bible writers say:

Mat 1:18
This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was PLEDGED TO BE MARRIED to Joseph, but before they came together*
(*She never had sex with Saint Joseph, She was only engaged to him, but ALAS…)

she was found to be with child through the Holy Ghost*.
(*Holy Joe busted the Horny Virgin Mary 6 months into her pregnancy)

==
The JEWISH Bible writers say:

Deut 22:23-25
If a man*
(*like God the Holy Ghost)

happens to meet in a town a virgin PLEDGED TO BE MARRIED*
(*like the Virgin Mary was to Holy Joe)

and he sleeps with her*
(*has sex with her! Like when God the Holy Ghost got Mary pregnant)

you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and STONE THEM TO DEATH--the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help*
(*the Horny Virgin Mary was not one bit feisty! She didn’t hesitate at all to accept the indecent proposal of a perfect stranger, the Holy Pimp Saint Gabriel working on behalf of God the Holy Ghost)

and the man because he violated another man's wife*.
(*that is in essence what the Holy Ghost did to Mary, so both of them ought to have been stoned to death, including the Holy Fetus Jesus)

==
In effect, Jesus Christ is an SOB-BASTARD who will rule the nations with a rod of iron!

Deut 23:2-3
A BASTARD*
(*SOB)

shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.*
(*twice, for “double witness”)

“Jesus” was put together using adequate bits and pieces of the OT Bible stories.

PROPHECY (keyword: SPIT IN HIS FACE)
Job 17:6
God has made me*
(*Jesus – “the only begotten son” or “the beginning of the creation” -Rev3:14)

a byword to everyone*
(*”God laid on him [i.e. Jesus] the iniquity of us all” -Isa 53:6)

a man in whose face people SPIT*
(*Preachers don’t like to use this PROPHECY, but Jesus loved it!)

Mark 10:34
(Jesus says) …who will mock him and SPIT ON HIM*
(*he expected plenty of SPIT)

flog him and kill him. 3 Days later he will rise.

==
FULFILLMENT (a salvo of SPIT IN JESUS’ FACE)

Mat 26:67
Then they*
(*the Romans! NOT THE JEWS!)

SPIT IN HIS FACE…*
(*his face was getting covered with SPIT)

Mat 27:30
They*
(THE ROMANS)

SPIT ON HIM…*
(*Jesus’ face invited a lot of SPIT)

Mark 14:65
Then some began to SPIT AT HIM*
(*again the Romans, NOT THE JEWS)

Mark 15:19
AGAIN and AGAIN they SPIT ON HIM*
(*the Roman soldiers were running out of SPIT!)

==
Jesus’ face was fully covered in SPIT in full compliance with Job’s prophecy (Luk24:44),

The CHRISTIAN Bible writers claim that Jesus, the sacrificial “lamb of God” was PURE AND CLEAN.
1 Pet 1:19-20
But with the precious blood of Christ*
(*mixed with Roman soldiers’ slimy SPIT, of course!)

as of a lamb without blemish and without SPOT*
(*NOT TRUE! It was FULL of SPIT!)

who verily*
(*NO BULL CRAP NOW!)

was FOREORDAINED before the foundation of the world…*
(In Christian mythology, God created this humongous universe as an accessory to have Jesus Christ nailed to a Holy Roman Cross! Today, this is known as:

FIRST DEGREE PREMEDITATED MURDER

punishable by secular law, but in the Christian religion it is a show of fatherly love)

==
The JEWISH Bible outlines the ultimate appearance of any sacrificial creature.
Num 19:2
This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee*
(*to God’s Holy Priest, not to the Roman authority)

a red heifer without spot*
(*Jesus’ face was FULL of Roman soldiers slimy SPIT! The Hebrew word “without spot” stands for “whole, sound, healthful” which is not the case of Jesus Christ, all roughed up and wearing a crown of pricking thistles embedded in his Holy Head)

wherein is no blemish*
(*Jesus was beaten beyond recognition. By the time Jesus Christ was ready to be nailed on the Holy Roman Cross for the supreme sacrifice before God, he was totally wasted! NO WONDER GOD THE FATHER FORSOOK HIM AS CRAP! God REJECTS the sacrifice of any wasted creature –Mal1:14)

and upon which never came YOKE*
(*all Jews were under Roman YOKE, but Jesus was FURTHER arrested and put in SHACKLES until his death)

==
Jesus was teaching everybody to take up their own cross to follow him (Mar 8:34), but on his way to be crucified Saint Simon was FORCED to carry Jesus’ Holy Cross!

Mat 27:32
As they were going out they met… Simon, and they FORCED him to carry the cross.

==
There is hardly any historical or archaeological evidence that any of the Bible stories ever took place or that God and the old Jewish characters ever existed.

Christianity is one of the biggest scams in human history, second only to Islam!
 
If you're old enough, you'll remember that the same claims about the end times being fulfilled were being made decades ago. Except they tied the fulfillment claims to different events. The point is that most prophecies are vague enough to be "fulfilled" by just about anything that the claimant finds to be alarming in any given historical period. It's bunk.
 
There are no archaeological findings that support any specific claims of the bible. If there were I'm sure they would have given you details rather than just alluding to it.
 
The better question is "how loosely worded are these supposed prophacies?"

Tha answer is very, to the point that given enough time some event someplace WILL be able to fit some kind of interpretation of these verses, and given these prophacies offered no idea on WHEN they would happen this means all of them will be "fulfilled" sooner or later.


Also, people have been saying the end time prophacies have been happening since they were made up.
 
Get yourself "Time/Life's Lost Civilizations, Mesopotamia" and SEE it for yourself!
Then there is "The Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark" that is 90 min.s long, showing it on top of a mountain in Turkey. Photoed and measured all over, even from space. You can get this and lots of other studies/findings confirming the Bible at www.grizzlyadams.com !
 
In response to your, "It said that... the bible is supported by archaeological findings," someone claimed, "There are no archaeological findings that support any specific claims of the bible."

That is factually incorrect on such a level of incorrectness as to be LOL funny. There are DOZENS of archaeological findings that confirm Bible claims.
Read the article at the link below. Yes, it works. Just read the article and/or scroll down to the link for the "Footnotes" and click on that.
 
"4000 of the 5000 bible prophecies have come true"

And these are what, exactly? The trouble with prophesies, especially really old ones, is that you have a great deal of possibilities to cherry pick from. I can guarantee that none of those 4000 are unambiguous or otherwise useful. In March of 2001 -- I kid you not -- I predicted a major terrorist attack would happen against the United States within the year. Six months later was 9/11. What information can be assumed from this? Am I prescient? No. Did I have specific knowledge of the inner workings of Al Qaeda? No. I've made other predictions as well, that a car would crash into a certain building soon and sure enough within a few weeks a car crashed into the building. These kinds of things are not magic and not very special at all.

When prophesies are vague and unspecific, many things can seem to satisfy the fulfilment of the prophesy. With 2000-5000 years of history to work with, chances are many of the prophesies have been 'fulfilled' thousands of times.

And if not... believers in those prophesies can always point to the future and continue to say they will be fulfilled.

You know what you should do, go read some old books about Nostradameus. I have a really funny one I bought in the 80s or early 90s talking about how his prophesies were coming true. They were talking about all sorts of events that were supposed to happen in the 90s and 2000s that simply never happened. Guess what? I'm sure there are books out now talking about Nostradameus and how he prophesied a bunch of things that supposedly are going to happen in the 2010s and 2020s.

"end times prophesies being fulfilled"

You realize people have been waiting for the end times for thousands of years and they've always been seeing the signs. It's rubbish. The Abrahamic religions are eschatological in nature and since they are so dominant, that relates to us as well. It all goes back to the Agricultural Revolution and how it was represented in the story of the Fall of Adam and Eve. Living outside the laws of nature is impossible and a collapse is inevitable. People knew this 10,000 years ago and that's what was meant by being cast out of the garden. It has been a collapse waiting to happen ever since then.

"Bible is supported by archaeological findings"

This is a bit of a bait and switch. The Bible is essentially diary of the early civilization builders... cultural history. Of course there are going to be some facts that will be supported by history. That is a far, far cry from the religious interpretations of the Bible being supported by history or archaeology, etc. There is no evidence at all for anything supernatural.
 
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