Evolution Bashing Thread

[MMS]

Scientists did not think the world was flat, fools following religious doctrine did.

 

[kingcody]

Dig up is an appropriate description. Try the backyard where the dog buried the bones.

 

[AgainstAnimalTesting]

The challenges to irreducible complexity are old and moldy and repeated like a million monkeys on typewriters hammering away with no one looking at the evidence. The 'Creation Science' advocates apparently never examine the multitude of evidence available. Several courses in Comparative Anatomy would answer most questions. All of the rest are well documented in literature.

 

[JakubG]

I'm not biased against the idea of creationism, if I hear a logical evidence I will give it a fair hearing, the same can not be said of creationists when dealing with people who believe in evolution.

 

[EmmyV]

yup just went back over the the whole topic, not to be insulting but the creationists have not yet given 1 logical argument. Come on please, just 1 good argument. please?

 

[n_n]

Pretty Pleeeeeease with chocolate sauce, crushed walnuts and a cherry one top. Please present just on logical real arguement.

 

[RajP]

anyone ever hear of evolutionary psychology? Basically just trying to show that more than we think is affected by evolution, not just arms and eyes but things like monogamy, sibling rivalry, low self esteem, even politics. very interesting stuff.

 

[legomymego01]

There is no logical evidence for creationism; it's no more than an attempt to dress up religion in a science cloak to sneak religious indoctrination in through the back door of schools. Read this article by richard Dawkins to see why.
PS: Your 2nd movie opened here this week.

 

[CocoC]

yes, i agree, but if i hear a good argument i won't dismiss it outright.
BTW Kill Bill Vol.2 KICKED ASS!

 

[AllenG]

Yes, but that's using the word "evolution" in a totally different context, like talking about the "evolution of the universe" is using "evolution" to mean something totally different. Really, it's using "evolution" as a homonym, and if English were written using Chinese characters, we'd use a different character for each different meaning of the word, even though the pronounciation remains the same.
In Japanese, for example, the verb "hakaru" means to measure or to weigh. It's pronounced the same in all cases, but has many different characters: one for weigh how heavy something is, one to weigh the pros and cons of an argument, one to measure length, and so on. So it is with "evolution".

 

[Sillyminnie]

But you'll never find one; by definition, their philosophy is intellectually bankrupt.

I'm planning to go see it this Friday.
BTW, have you seen Zatoichi?

 

[TerryJ]

No, not at all, it means the same thing, take for example sibling rivalry, it evolved in us the same as a larger brain did, through natural selection over a long time. How is it different?

Uhhhhh, i own a Zatoichi, i assume you mean a film of some kind?

 

[trutht]

The thing is Kimpatsu, as much as I sympathise with your world view, not everyone is as secure in the ability of human reason to show us ultimate truth. Not everyone is a hardcore rationalist like yourself.

 

[ShaunZee]

Yes, but in Japonese with Chinese subtitles.

Interesting, being blind is alternately skilled and definitely not handicapped!!

Frank

 

[NenaLillyAnn]

Sibling rivalry is not so much an evolutionary trait as a sociological one. In cultures such as the Kikuyu, where they have no concept of personal property, brothers cheerfully went to prison for their guilty siblings under British law imposed from the outside because they saw no difference between their brother's crime and their own; in their own eyes they were therefore equally culpable.
Zatoichi is a new film starring Beat takeshi, about a blind swordsman in Edo Japan. It's very good, being part MA, part detective story, and it ends with a geta tap dance. Given the popularity of Samurai movies at the moment (Last Samurai, Kill Bill), I thought you'd have heard of it. My bad.

 

[Krunk]

granted, Hugh; but that is a fault of the education system. Critical thinking just isn't taught in schools.

 

[jesusd]

Kimpatsu, are you really so foolish as to believe that researchers studying this did not differentiate between environmental and inborn traits?

 

[EllieC]

But those subjects are not taught deeply or well enough, Hugh. Biology, for example, is taught as a disparate set of unconnected facts, because the evolutionary underpinning is only taught in passing, if at all, rather than as the lynchpin of all biology. All science teaching is rotememorisation of facts, rather than examination and discovery; so, no, critical thinking isn't taught in schools.

 

[muffingg]

It depends whom you mean; I have read published studies that didn't differentiate.

 

[StacieThePrincess]

yeah, but i don't read crap