Gun Control

I don't need to carry one. And I wouldn't do so. I merely said it should be legal to do so. This country has never been about requiring a shown need in order for something to be legal. If it isn't harmful to anyone else, it should be legal. I support mandatory background checks and would even support a one-time course requiring new gun owners to learn basic handling/safety techniques, self-defense laws, and other gun-related legal issues as long as it wasn't cost prohibitive. I'm opposed to limits on the numbers of guns a month a gun owner can purchase and waiting periods. And automatic weapons aren't banned now in most states. You just can't buy any that haven't been in private ownership since before 1986.
 
Since when are guns not harmful to anyone MrWesson22 ? And while we are at it, maybe we should also make all A-class drugs legal as well.
 
Who says that the europeans are demanding anything from the US ? Would be kind of difficult, don't you think ? This is an online forum NewLearner and all of us have a right to share our oppinion. However, if you are a US citizen and don't want to be critizised on your countrys affairs then don't be on here. I see the thread about the VT gun incident and I voice what I think should be done. You might not agree with me but its my oppinion. And the only person who could do something about it is your own president, not some citizen in europe who is online on an internet forum.



I have no problem taking the flack NewLearner. However there is a difference between being herrassed constantly just for being online and reacting to posts I make. Who judges if an oppinion is right or wrong NewLearner ? Like I said above, just because you might not agree with it doesn't make the oppinion wrong. Or pot and kettle. I find it pretty ridiculous to be called on by the same people all the time while at the same time others actually do in some ways agree with me. But the people calling on me seem to ignore these exact others.
 
I didn't think it was said that you could not express your opinion. You did and your opinion is clearly in disagreement with the facts.
 
True as far as I know. You need a Class III license though.


The gun shop I visited in El Paso had just sold a German MG42 machine gun for $35000.

Anything manufactured after May 1986 is banned from private ownership.
 
That's what I understood. So that others here understand, you can own a fully automatic weapon if you have a class III license and getting that is not an easy task.
 
Or you buy a semi, pick a kit up at a local gun show, make it auto on your own and you bypass the license issue.
 
As was pointed out to me, the only problem is if you ever fire it everyone within a mile and a half knows what you did
 
I really wanted a go on that MG42 though... 1800 rounds a minute, belt fed...
 
There's alot of places you can go here where you have free autonomy to fire what ye will with no problem.
Plus you have the variety of ranges that have heavy weapons that you can fire.
 
A gun in my hands has never been harmful to anyone else. A gun in any law-abiding citizen's hands isn't harmful. And I think most drugs should be legal, but that's a separate issue altogether.
 
It depends on your state. Class III is no problem in mine as long as you have no criminal history or other issues.
 
Class three usually requires being an importer, maker, or dealer of weapons as well. I think Class three exempts you from the local law enforcement sign off's too.

If anyone is interested here's some info: http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIF1.html
 
Being a class III dealer and buying a Class III weapon from a licensed dealer are entirely different issues. I can go to my local Class III gun store tomorrow and fill out the paperwork to buy a suppressed, short barreled M4, pay for my $200 stamp, and get the weapon as soon as ATF runs the background checks. I might have to get my local sheriff to sign off on it, like with select fire/full autos, but I'm not even sure about that requirement.
 
brabrus, i notice in your signature that you apparently like really fast cars, and have driven in the neighborhood of 200 miles per hour. driving that fast has been known to kill people, too. does the government have the right to keep you from driving fast anywhere, even including private tracks? why not?
 
dturtleman, yes I like fast cars, especially the ones tuned by Brabus but that doesn't mean I myself drive that fast. As for your statement above: Yes, the government has that right. In fact, here in germany the government is thinking about lowering the speed limit on the highway to the european one of 120 km/h. As for private tracks: if you are referring to GP tracks like the old Nürburgring that occassionally private cars use, those people are still required to carry a racing licence (which means you either must have raced before or did a safety course) before even attempting to drive their cars there.

Sorry to ask this though. Yes, drugs kill. Yes, cars kill. But with both they are stricter laws than with guns. Possession of illegal class A-drugs can get you a prison sentence. Going over the speed limit can get you a money fine and possibly also a prison sentence. What does possessing a deadly gun get you (which in fact probably kills you faster than the first two)?
 
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