Homo/Bisexuals in the Military?

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This is my first time posting on the military board and I'm sure this question has been ask but I was just wondering what are you’re views on Homo/Bisexuals joining the military and if you believe the ‘DADT’ policy should be revoked. Obviously I’ve gotten several opinions from the fellow members of the LGBT community but I was hoping to gain a more board perspective. I understand some of the concerns and reluctance (especially with those who have limited experiences with Homo/Bisexuals); such as living arrangements and showering situations but I’m still just looking for more disadvantages and cant seem to find any. Feel free to answer as you see fit; Im not worried about being offended.

Thanks in advance,
 
i no this sounds wrong and cruel but i do not agree about gays in the military its wrong!
 
they want to let gays in the military to rape the enemy in combat when they get captured
 
The best thing for gays and bisex in the military is not to be open about and flaunt it and the reason is this. You can not make people like gays and bisexuals and the military is a close living 24 hour a day job and why make trouble when stress is already high enough. DODT policy is perfect so let it be. The more you push your agenda he more push back you will get.
 
I dont really care what people do in their spare time as long as they dont flaunt it in my face or encourage other people to follow the sin of sodomy.

As a human being i will treat you the same way you treat me. If you respect me you will be given respect back.

Thats all. (But dont expect me to be your friend)
 
When I served we had plenty of Gays and Bis serving, nobody cared, yes they got harassed but everybody did. Fatty's, Big Noses, Dikes, Blacks, White women who slept with Blacks, Mexicans, Whites, and sorry if I didn't include what ever group you fall in.
That's the environment and if you can't take it don't join. The military didn't need a policy, anybody in my company would have risked their lives for any of those people. Like I said we didn't care and we showered and slept in the same places. Quite frankly don't even know why we had separate quarters for the women.
 
Don't ask, don't tell is the best policy possible. The gays don't get bullied and the straights don't get self-conscious.
 
I feel there has been a period of nonacceptance for decades due to a "homophobic" concern which stems from not understanding.

Also, I feel there are some who go beyond their "true desire" simply by doing the lisp thing which we both know the individual wasn't born with and I find that very unbecoming and deceptive.

Likewise, I've done my military duty knowing there were both homo and bisexuals serving with me.

My take is this....I personally don't care what a persons personal traits are as long as they don't infringe upon my own rights. Provided the person does their job equally well without sexually harassing others...the person has as much right to stand and defend my country as any other person!
 
I'm not Military but am married to a 34 year US Army Veteran who is still serving. I've heard this discussion many times over many years. The reason the Military has the 'no homosexual behavior' rule in the first place is because of fraternization. It is better for everyone concerned that no romantic relationships interfere with combat duty. Homo - or hetero - sexual. But, when the policy was put into place, only men served in combat so it wasn't necessary to address the hetero aspect. Obviously, things have changed and women now serve alongside their Soldier Brothers and romance, sex, and all the drama involved crept into the Military lifestyle big time. A Soldier is on duty 24/7, even when not in uniform. Being on duty is like being at work. And everyone will tell you that it's generally a bad idea to have a romantic or sexual relationship with a co-worker. Most employers frown on it, if not write policy against it. Same thing with the Military. It's Soldering with each other, not loving.each other.

Okay, so that's the history of the issue. Now for today: The Military is run by a group of senior staff members I've always called "The Good Old Boys Club". Their demographic is - over 50, white, conservative, Republican, and anti-gay (generally speaking, of course). Also keep in mind that these folks are still in the mind-set of the pre-women combat service era and believe the old adage "If the Military wanted you to have a family, they would have issued you one along with your boots". They are the ones making and keeping policy. Until they have retired and younger, more tolerant and liberal staff take their places, things won't change.

As to the policy and my opinion: I think if women are allowed to serve in combat, so should the GLBT community. If the Military trusts women Soldiers with their "men", they should trust gay Soldiers with their "men". I also think that more and more Soldiers are beginning to feel the same way. The problem is that people bring their personal views into the Military when they join. If a redneck hates gays when he is a civilian, he will hate gays when he's serving his country. If a person with an accepting attitude joins the Military, he brings that with him as well. So, I believe that eventually, as our society as a whole changes, so will the Military. But, having a harsher attitude than the general public to begin with, it will take longer.

My husband's opinion is this (I've heard him say it often enough). "I don't care what a Soldier's sexual preference is.....it just better not interfere with the performance of duty."
 
loves penis, loves vagina...who cares? neither of those should be on your mind when you're in a firefight anyway.
if gays wanna serve, who cares? another gun is another gun, and if a 6 year old kid could kill you just as well as a 26 year old could, then a gay could kill them just as well as a strait guy could. lesbians though....well im not really in favor of most women being allowed into the military anyway, met too many that thought they were special because of waht was between theri legs, and used it to get promoted instead of learning their job. look at jessica lynch: hid under a humvee when the bullets started flying, couldnt shoot back because she never learned how to take care of her weapon and it was rusted shut: tahts a prime example of 90% of the women in the military that i've met: useless. dont get me wrong, atleast lesbo's have that butchy mentality, but still i can go a few weeks outside the wire without a shower and come back with maybe a cold and a bad case of athletes foot, a female would have to get medevacced out by the end of hte first week.
 
The military is a microcosm of society so to not think that gays/bi people aren't serving would be idiotic. However, for unit cohesiveness to exist it's best for people to keep their personal lives to themselves. DADT is the best policy. For openly gay/bi people to "come out" in a military environment wouldn't be a good idea for several reasons. Sexual harrassment is the biggest reason.
 
The military is a microcosm of society so to not think that gays/bi people aren't serving would be idiotic. However, for unit cohesiveness to exist it's best for people to keep their personal lives to themselves. DADT is the best policy. For openly gay/bi people to "come out" in a military environment wouldn't be a good idea for several reasons. Sexual harrassment is the biggest reason.
 
We almost lost a good kid because he came out in the Army. Fortunately it was in BCT and the drill sgt just told him to clam up and never say it again. (After, of course, he got grilled by ALL the drill sergeants at once.) Poor kid. I wonder what happened to him.
 
homos spread aids and have doo doo breath. Then there is hepatitis A B C. When I was in the Navy we did not spoon each other because spooning leads to forking. Seriously everyone I served with I would fight and die for. And thats the facts jack! OU812
 
There are many disadvantages if you just play the good old common sense card. Look I know plenty of gay people, I dated a girl who went to Art School in Philadelphia which is right next to the gayborhood and I even took a History class called "Gay's in America", So i am not some Billy Bob Hillbilly, but the problem is that there are a lot of bigots out there and the Military is a "masculine" culture. The Army simply does not want to deal with the problems that will occur of open homosexuals are allowed in the military, from sexual harassment to assault, to god only knows. Of course it is wrong and of course homosexuals should be allowed to get married and serve their country and so on but the problem with them joining the military is that there is no way to protect them from their own and their is no way to properly deal with the inevitable assaults. I am not trying to paint the US military as a bunch of queer bashing rednecks but many of the people who join the military are 1) just that and 2) only 18 and have never been around homosexuals, they never sat down and had a conversation and bullshited with them as just regular human beings. So if you think that for one instance that there wont be a problem if open homosexuals are in the military you are wrong.

Also i am aware that a similar argument could have been made about African Americans and segregation but deep down inside I think this is different simply because many people for one reason or another think it is a choice.
 
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