How can the Jewish messiah fulfil all prophecies in one life time when some are...

[sdn_cowboy]

...not compatible with others? Many Jews says Jesus cannot be the messiah when he did not fulfil all prophecies in one life time. Two prophecies already are incompatible he must be both in the order of David and Melchizedek. In order to be in the order of David he must be born in the line of David and start his reign at the age of 30 (Baptism is how the Christians believe this to be started) and reign for forty years, among other things. In order be to be in the order of Melchizedek he must be born of non-believers and be a high priest of God and bless with bread and wine. How can he fulfil all of that in one life time?
Psalm 110 clealy says order of melchizedek he must have something in common with melchizedek all we know is he believed in YHVH (no big deal there many people do) he was a high priest of YHVH without being born of believers and he blessed with bread and wine and Abraham gave him tithe that is all we know about him the fact he is in scripture for so short but is so important in revealing the messiah must mean his atributes we do know are important
He left in the flesh he comes back in the flesh
In order for the messiah to be propheticly related to david he must have similar attributes he was crowned at 30 and reigned for forty years and I alreayd mentioned psalms for melchizedek

 

[RicoJPA]

If they are mutually exclusive, how can Jesus fulfill the second one when he returns. It doesn't say he'll be reborn again to human parents. It says he resurrected and is coming back the way he left.

So, all you've pointed out is that messianic prophecy is unfulfillable whether you're speaking of Christianity or Judaism.

Now, Judaism, with which I was raised, focuses much more on the here and now, on Tikkun Olam, healing the world. What you believe about the coming messiah or don't believe isn't as important as obeying the Golden Rule which Hillel calls the whole of the Torah, the rest being just commentary on that. Judaism also teaches that all the Righteous share in the world to come. It's not just for Jews. I admit, problems like the one you present are why I no longer practice. But for those of my family and friends who still do, those problems outside the realm of the natural world are not really knowable by us within it, and God will take care of these things in his own time. It's enriching to speculate and look at scriptures for clues and starting points, but there are no unified ideas about what that world to come will consist of, what the afterlife until the point of the next world's creation is, who or what the messiah will be and what form the messianic age will take.

For instance, it's a popular teaching, but by no means universal throughout Judaism, that someone is born into every generation who is capable of becoming the messiah, if and when the proper circumstances present themselves. Others believe in the prophecies don't refer to a single individual at all, not Jesus, nor anyone else. That it will be an age, when humanity is able to make peace with itself. And no individual will be more responsible for the coming of that age than any other. There's numerous other opinions as well. There's a saying, two Jews, three opinions (at least!). But behaving ethically, or at least trying to, is important in every branch of Judaism.

 

[DAravah]

answer: and you would be in error. There are NO prophecies about how old the Messiah will be when revealed nor how long he will reign. There are no prophecies about the Order of Melchizedek or that he will be born to non-believers.

You are confusing Christian myth with Jewish prophecies.

The actual prophecies about the Jewish Messiah
* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
*****In other words - this must all be accomplished in a human lifetime*****
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).
Thanks to Mark S, myself and Plushy Bear

Reasons Jesus wasn’t the Jewish Messiah
divine birth/divinity - (the Jewish Messiah will be human – G-d cannot become human – Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 44:6, Hosea 11:9, Ezekiel 28:2, Numbers 23:19)

performing miracles - (JM won't perform miracles)

taking on the sins of others - (no one can take on the sins of others – Deuteronomy 24:16, Exodus 32:30-35, Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27)

breaking Sabbath - strike (JM will be observant)

sacrificed/rising from the dead - (G-d rejects human sacrifice and blood sacrifice is NOT an absolute requirement – Deuteronomy 12:30-31, Jeremiah 19:4-6, Psalm 106:37-38, Ezekiel 16:20, Leviticus 5:11-13, Jonah 3:10, Leviticus 17, Leviticus 5:11-13, Numbers 16:47, Numbers 31:50, Isaiah 6:6-7, Jeremiah 7:22-23, Psalm 51:16-17)

prophecies unfilled - (JM will accomplish them in one life time)

The Messiah cannot trace his lineage through Jehoiakim, Jeconiah, or Shealtiel, because this royal line was cursed (I Chronicles 3:15-17; Jeremiah 22:18,30). But according to both Matthew 1:11-12 and Luke 3:27, Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel

being worshiped - Jews worship G-d and only G-d

G-d is not a man that he should be deceitful nor a son of man that he should relent. (Numbers 23:19)

I will not act on My wrath, will not turn to destroy Ephraim. For I am G-d, not man, The Holy One in your midst. (Hosea 11:9)

Moreover, the Glory of Israel does not deceive or change His mind, for He is not human that He should change His mind. (1 Samuel 15:29)

He is not a man, like me, that I can answer him, that we can go to law together. No arbiter is between us, to lay his hand on us both. (Job 9:32-33)

Will you still say, “I am a god” before your slayers, when you are proved a man, not a god, at the hands of those who strike you down? (Ezekiel 28:9)

For your own sake, therefore, be most careful – since you saw no shape when the Lord your G-d spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. (Hosea 4:15)

For I am the Lord, I change not. (Malachi 3:6)
(thanks to What Jews Believe, myself and Mama P)

 

[kmL1234]

Because It Was God who set the plan in motion.In the beginning of all things.
Read The Book Of JOHN
The Jew will accept Messiah, but it will be during the times of terrible troubles ( tribulation)
Even in this event Jesus will have fulfilled this prophecy, It is Jesus who comes as Victor at Armageddon, to defeat the false Christ ( antichrist) this is who the Jew will accept as Messiah in these last days. The false one.