If you think the Bible is B.S.,can you explain why all the foretold...

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FrankL

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...prophecies are coming to pass? Look at all that's going on in the world today, especially in our country. All that's happening is prophesized in the Bible. Talks about the dismissal of God (taking God out of public view, etc), one world power (where Obama is trying to lead us), innocent killings (abortions), and also the dead accurate events that are taking place in the Middle East and much, much more. How can books (that make up the Bible) which were written thousands of years ago be so accurate, yet people dismiss it as "B.S."?
Its amazing how many ignorant answers you can get from a simple question. You can just about feel the animosity in some people's answers, as if the question offends them personally. As it is written: Every eye will see and every ear will hear...... The day WILL come when all the non believers will face the judge.....I hope I'm in that courtroom to hear the excuses, when they see how wrong they were......
 
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JohnL

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How can you be so narrow minded as to try to pass off events that happen just because sometimes they happen as prophecy?

If EVERY "prophecy" in that book comes true at the exact moment it says it will, it still wouldnt prove a thing to me. There are too many nutjobs out there trying to make them all come true.
 
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borninaugust30

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You are completely right! There are so many more you have yet to mention, and ever since the 19th century they have become fulfilled faster and faster.
 
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Panther

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If that all it takes to make the Bible the word of God ... Nostradamus Prophecies came true too ... and are still unfolding ... he was a see((er)) and an alchemist, not a christian or religious zealot.
 
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DreamstuffEntity

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1. There are several mundane ways in which a prediction of the future can be fulfilled:
1. Retrodiction. The "prophecy" can be written or modified after the events fulfilling it have already occurred.
2. Vagueness. The prophecy can be worded in such a way that people can interpret any outcome as a fulfillment. Nostradomus's prophecies are all of this type. Vagueness works particularly well when people are religiously motivated to believe the prophecies.
3. Inevitability. The prophecy can predict something that is almost sure to happen, such as the collapse of a city. Since nothing lasts forever, the city is sure to fall someday. If it has not, it can be said that according to prophecy, it will.
4. Denial. One can claim that the fulfilling events occurred even if they have not. Or, more commonly, one can forget that the prophecy was ever made.
5. Self-fulfillment. A person can act deliberately to satisfy a known prophecy.

There are no prophecies in the Bible that cannot easily fit into one or more of those categories.

2. In biblical times, prophecies were not simply predictions. They were warnings of what could or would happen if things did not change. They were meant to influence people's behavior. If the people heeded the prophecy, the events would not come to pass; Jonah 3 gives an example. A fulfilled prophecy was a failed prophecy, because it meant people did not heed the warning.

3. The Bible also contains failed prophecies, in the sense that things God said would happen did not (Skeptic's Annotated Bible n.d.). For example:
* Joshua said that God would, without fail, drive out the Jebusites and Canaanites, among others (Josh. 3:9-10). But those tribes were not driven out (Josh. 15:63, 17:12-13).
* Ezekiel said Egypt would be made an uninhabited wasteland for forty years (29:10-14), and Nebuchadrezzar would plunder it (29:19-20). Neither happened.

4. Other religions claim many fulfilled prophecies, too (Prophecy Fulfilled n.d.).
 
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DanlEl

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They aren't coming to pass. The ones' people tend to 'bring up' are so vague and generalized that they can apply to something in almost every time period -- just like Nostradomus "prophecies."

Last week, someone stopped me on the street to tell me how the Federal Reserve was "foretold" of in the Bible. It's absurd, really.
 
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Persephone

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they are far from "dead accurate". they were made ambiguous on purpose, so you could relate them to whats going on at any time.

look up the word gullible.
 
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joe2

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so your saying the church burning,beheading,murdering people in history couldnt be innocent killings.

so your saying that the church wasn't trying to lead the world to a one world power in history?

so your saying jerusalems ancient battles couldn't be the fullfillment of middle east trouble?

i can just about feel you never listened in history class and never read anything besides the bible.

i promise you. you will die hoping for a god to come, but he will never come.

i swear on my life that jesus will not return for you, or your children, or your grand children. etc. etc. etc.

and do you know why?

because jesus is as dead as the dinosaurs. god is as real as the boogeyman.
 
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Arthur

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Just like all of Nostradamas's prophesies have come true? Just like ANY "prophet's" prophesies have come true?

In thirty days you shall dine, wether you have dined in those thirty days or not. If you do not dine, you will very soon after.

Prove me wrong.

I'm a prophet.
 
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mÅlmightyÅtheistm

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Prophecies are VERY vague and ambiguous, and those events have happened for centuries.

And when one of these books calls bats birds (Leviticus, Chapter 11), It's obvious it's BS.
 
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