Is Iran Next?

jossie

Member
Yes. "Situation Normal, All...Up"


Not 100% sure where it comes from. In fact I think it may be (amusingly enough) a US military joke.
 

slimtim

New member
Hmm.. rather ironic. The one that's whining about people handing down history lessons is the person who started it.



Oh please.
Your lame rhetoric on how evil the Iranians are is just as lame as what was getting rammed down everyones throats about those evil communists in the Soviet Union back in the day.

I think it'd be rather interesting... I mean now after all westerners love to talk about the 'values' they hold dear. You're doing a fine job of it yourself... but seems to me there is a real drastic difference betweent talk and action.

Yeah, gotta love that spread of values... let's see... some great examples... Vietnam, Afghanistan (several times), Iraq and plenty of others... yep gotta love all that superior western value system being imposed on anyone and everyone that gets in the way.

Sweet jesus.
 

antilyou

New member
naw... someone just spouted the same crap that's been gettin' spouted for years by the Americans anytime someone doesn't fall in line with them. That it was a Brit spouting the crap was rather amusing.
 
i do not think it's out of the question to label the iranian value system as counter to our own..... in many respects....
fundemental differences such as women's sufferage, the holocaust's history, human rights, etc.. have all been in the forefront of the news.

to label this as equal to the soviets is not fair....
comparing it to the Nazis is also a bit premature....
however.. when you are a nation publically calling for the destruction of the jews..... you invite the comparison by the rest ot the world.. period
 

ktgal

New member
The Iranian president (and others too, no doubt) have called for the destruction of the state of Israel - not for the destruction of the Jews.
 

AngelFacet

New member
I agree with most of this. But, IMO the difference between man and other animals is that modern man takes everything he can get his hands on, and an animal takes what it needs. Hence animals can live in balance with nature, and modern man can only destroy it, as we can see.




My point in bringing up Christian extremism was not to debate the level of its extent, but to point out that extremism is possible and exists on both religious sides.

Furthermore, how can we even gage such an issue. We would at least need the same level of coverage towards Christian extremis as Islamic extremism. But, the media is in all likelihood mostly Christian, so I don’t really think such undertakings would be impartial.

I goggled for a bit and found the following, its subjective, but interesting, have a read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1873758,00.html

How about the BNP, is that not an extremist Christian group. They certainly aren’t Muslim or Jewish. Apparently they also encouraged the formation of the Christian Council of Britain. Go figure.

What if we take something like the government and its foreign policy. If we consider that most of the UK government is Christian, then I guess since foreign policy is geared against Muslims (as some may say) then it is in a sense Christian extremism. If we take someone like George Bush and his connection to religion i.e. “God told me to invade Iraq”, well that’s just scary.

In other words, you cant gage the level of extremism merely by finding preachers that preach extremism. People in powerful positions may hold extreme religious views and skew whatever policies in line with their views and we would know nothing about it. It certainly would not be surprising if this was the case, all we have to do is look at what’s happening in the middle east.
 

camper

New member
They didn't actually call for the destruction of the Jews.

And the phrase calling for "Israel to be wiped from the map" may have been somewhat misinterpreted, the real meaning being a continuation of established policy of non-recognition of the right of Israel to exist.

Obviously many consider that's bad enough in itself.
 

PedroR

Member
So Medi, just to be clear, you're trotting out the same rubbish train of thought that every American administration since the 1960's has trotted out?
 

reject

Member
I think with the expection of their nuclear programme, which has the potential to cause real bother if it isn't dealt with (preferably not by the Americans or Israelis) Iran has great potential to become an ally of the west. As for womens rights, it wont be long before they are sorted because if you look at Irans Higher education statistics, it shows that far more women are entering universities than men, and since knowledge = power, how long will it be before women become more influential that their lesser educated male co-workers?
 
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