the_ufc_guy
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This is a hypothetical situation and it is exaggerated on purpose to prove a point.
Suppose you're locked in a 6'X6' room. You are in this room, and only this room, for the whole day. Every night you are hung up in chains and whipped for an hour. It hurts like hell. You are fed just enough to survive and you're injuries are minimal enough not to kill you. Throughout the day all you do is sit in your room waiting for the evening beating.
So one day, after months of this, the man issuing you the beating tells you something. He says "I'm a giving you a choice. You're first choice is, I can give you this rope and you can hang yourself and be free from this punishment. You're second choice is that I contine to beat you every night and you continue to live in this room for years, and maybe one day I will let you out. Your choice."
I made this story up myself. So tell me something, which would you choose? There are no variables, just the two choices. If you answered "I'll continue the punishment until one day where I may be let free," I think you're full of it. However, I do believe that you believe that you would do that. You just haven't experienced it so you really don't know if you could handle it or not. But you feel that if there's hope to get through it, you'll continue to live.
Well the point of this story is to demonstrate how, in one way, I perceive my life. I have the choice of ending it right now which would end all pain and suffering and consequently all the joys I have, which I'll admit I do have some, or, I can continue suffering with no guarantee that I'll ever be better. There is no right or wrong answer. It's relative. How strong are your wits? How long can you suffer for before breaking? Everyone's different. But don't be biased against me because I feel like "giving up." It's a personal choice. Everyone has a right to do whatever they please with their own life, including taking it.
A lot of people will argue that suicide is a selfish act. I have only thought of one general circumstance where this may be so. If there is a man who wishes to kill himself, but in doing so, would leave his immediate family behind with no financial support. This is the only situation where I could deem suicide, to some degree, a "selfish" act. But otherwise, I'm all for anyone that wants to kill themselves. I think it's dumb to do on an impulse, but if carefully thought out and considered, then sometimes it can be a reasonable option I suppose. Sure, usually people can get better with therapy, medication, or what have you, but sometimes it's just not worth the hassle. And sometimes that stuff doesn't work, and so especially after exhausting those resources would I condone suicide. It's not selfish. Yeah, you're family will be hurt and be in pain by you doing so, but let me ask you this..with this knowledge, knowing that your family will be hurt, is that pain so great, that it prevents you from commiting the act? And if so, then obviously you should not kill yourself. However, if the thought of hurting loved ones should hold you back, then to some degree of truth, the pain you are going through is not so severe afterall. What good is it to continue living in your own hell, just to please someone else? I think it's selfish of other people to tell you it's selfish if you kill yourself. The only way I would excuse a remark like that is if they said that with the intent on preventing you from doing it in the first place, which they generally try to do. But how dare they expect you to continue suffering so that they don't get hurt? I think that's being a little arrogant and selfish right there.
If you wish to try and give me some sort of rebuttle, be my guest. Just be sure not to throw any arbitrary statements my way until you've thought about what you're saying.
Suppose you're locked in a 6'X6' room. You are in this room, and only this room, for the whole day. Every night you are hung up in chains and whipped for an hour. It hurts like hell. You are fed just enough to survive and you're injuries are minimal enough not to kill you. Throughout the day all you do is sit in your room waiting for the evening beating.
So one day, after months of this, the man issuing you the beating tells you something. He says "I'm a giving you a choice. You're first choice is, I can give you this rope and you can hang yourself and be free from this punishment. You're second choice is that I contine to beat you every night and you continue to live in this room for years, and maybe one day I will let you out. Your choice."
I made this story up myself. So tell me something, which would you choose? There are no variables, just the two choices. If you answered "I'll continue the punishment until one day where I may be let free," I think you're full of it. However, I do believe that you believe that you would do that. You just haven't experienced it so you really don't know if you could handle it or not. But you feel that if there's hope to get through it, you'll continue to live.
Well the point of this story is to demonstrate how, in one way, I perceive my life. I have the choice of ending it right now which would end all pain and suffering and consequently all the joys I have, which I'll admit I do have some, or, I can continue suffering with no guarantee that I'll ever be better. There is no right or wrong answer. It's relative. How strong are your wits? How long can you suffer for before breaking? Everyone's different. But don't be biased against me because I feel like "giving up." It's a personal choice. Everyone has a right to do whatever they please with their own life, including taking it.
A lot of people will argue that suicide is a selfish act. I have only thought of one general circumstance where this may be so. If there is a man who wishes to kill himself, but in doing so, would leave his immediate family behind with no financial support. This is the only situation where I could deem suicide, to some degree, a "selfish" act. But otherwise, I'm all for anyone that wants to kill themselves. I think it's dumb to do on an impulse, but if carefully thought out and considered, then sometimes it can be a reasonable option I suppose. Sure, usually people can get better with therapy, medication, or what have you, but sometimes it's just not worth the hassle. And sometimes that stuff doesn't work, and so especially after exhausting those resources would I condone suicide. It's not selfish. Yeah, you're family will be hurt and be in pain by you doing so, but let me ask you this..with this knowledge, knowing that your family will be hurt, is that pain so great, that it prevents you from commiting the act? And if so, then obviously you should not kill yourself. However, if the thought of hurting loved ones should hold you back, then to some degree of truth, the pain you are going through is not so severe afterall. What good is it to continue living in your own hell, just to please someone else? I think it's selfish of other people to tell you it's selfish if you kill yourself. The only way I would excuse a remark like that is if they said that with the intent on preventing you from doing it in the first place, which they generally try to do. But how dare they expect you to continue suffering so that they don't get hurt? I think that's being a little arrogant and selfish right there.
If you wish to try and give me some sort of rebuttle, be my guest. Just be sure not to throw any arbitrary statements my way until you've thought about what you're saying.