Israel Blockades Lebanon

I read your posts. I understand your point is that the term suicide bomber should be used because martyr and homicide bomber are loaded terms for the same thing.

What I am asking you is if using the phrase suicide in front of bomber doesn't actually place the emphasis upon the one doing the bombing instead of the other people the bomber killed? I disagree with the notion that the bomber is nothing, but I certainly don't feel that the bomber is as important in the situation as those he tried to kill.

Since you two brought up this topic, I am not really sure how I would refer to the bombers. Perhaps they should be referred to as bombing mass murderers?
 
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/02/mideast.main/index.html

CNN has video released by Israel of Israeli coofftopicndos carrying out a raid on a Lebanese hospital being used by Hezbollah to attack Israel.
 
the established term is suicide bombers, it is a fairly neutral term that describes what is happening.

i think that you are misunderstanding how suicide is being used in this phrase. it is not more important than the *bomber* part of the phrase because it is the first word. suicide is being used like modifier on bomber. it is only describing what kind of bomber they were.

does that make sense?
 
Honestly? About as much sense as strapping a bomb to your child, sending him into a daycare center and hitting the 'go boom now' switch can.
 
Yes it does. It is the primary phrase I have used in regards to what is generally happening over in the middle east. But having read the article on doublespeak that was listed, I do somewhat understand the view that are espousing in that the terms are a propoganda war. It is interesting that the news even mentions that the propoganda war could be the more important one in this conflict and the deck is heavily stacked against Israel.
 
Who's got a timer? I'm curious to see how long it takes Sanka to say this is some kind of Zionist Terrorist Propaganda fabrication, etc., offering no more proof than his capitalized adjectives.
 
dude.. this was not aimed at you, i was asking newlearner if my explaination to his question made sense.

learn to read.
 
Well, read the complete article then!
http://www.iansa.org/regions/nafrica/documents/child_recruitment_israel_en2004.pdf

I'm unsure why you cannot view the Israel indymedia site I just tried it and it worked just fine! Maybe it's blocked by your government
 
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We all know that no members of Hezbollah would ever use a protected building from which to attack Israel. It just isn't possible. That would break so many laws and besides, it wouldn't be very nice. It must be a faked video that Israel doctored from a few years ago!
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IMHO you have hit the nail on the head. it is going to be very hard to isreal to walk away from this conflict LOOKING like a winner. which is why IMHO this war is such a mistake, they are playing into the hands of hezbollah.
 
dude...I know how to read and I know you were answering his question. However, if it was intended for just him and you didn't want anyone else's opinion, why did you post it on an internet forum instead of emailing him?

Would a 'dude...learn to use the technology' quip be appropriate?
 
No, it opens just fine. Interesting report; I'll have to read the whole thing later. (when I can get it translated in crayon)
 
Yep, Hezbollah are certainly 'winning by losing'.

On a Global PR level, Irsael's popularity has hit an all time low.
 
Absolutely. Because Israel is the reacter, they can't know where they are going to be hit. They can't have a chance to sanitize the news to their favor the same that Hezbollah can. Hezbollah knows they are going to get hit where they fired from, so they can set it up to make it look like they are innocent victims. They can remove weapons from the area. Thus they can try, as insinuated in the CNN report, to make the members that died in the conflict appear to be innocent victims instead of combatants.

Any misstep that Israel makes will only compound the issue. If they hit something that they shouldn't have, then opinion is against them.

Almost all of the new reports have focused on the damage done to Lebanon and making it seem like Israel is the aggressor. Yet the truth is that Hezbollah had been firing rockets for almost two months during this three week conflict.
 
The U.S dis not governed at all international laws, that is why we refuse to participate in the ICC. Sure we follow them when we can, but when it comes down to it we break them if we feel like it.

These "high profile" cases, are merely examples. You cannot tell me the thing going on in U.S military prisons are simply soldiers taking it a step too far.

The assertion that Hezbollah is equivilant to the U.S is absurd, but I was simply comparing the two using your words. What has Hezbollah done to those under their rule that the U.S has not done?

We invaded Iraq, killing 50,000 plus innocents and we did it because we wanted to.

The same as Hezbollah, except they have killed WAY less innocents.
 
Isn't being able to defend yourself more important than global popularity?
 
No worries, I'll give you Israel, Lebanon & Palestine.

As far as I can tell this organisations reports seem to be accurate & well balanced.

http://www.child-soldiers.org/


Lebanon
http://www.child-soldiers.org/document_get.php?id=958

Palestine
http://www.child-soldiers.org/document_get.php?id=959

Israel
http://www.child-soldiers.org/document_get.php?id=945
 
I didn't say it was blocked. It has a security warning due to an incorrect security certificate. I make it a habit of not viewing sites with incorrect security certificate on my work computer. While usually it isn't a problem when the certificate is invalid, better safe than sorry when your job can be on the line.
 
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