Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

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GerogeH

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Paracetemol poisoning is horendous, you feel sick - get better then your liver dies and your body can't get rid of toxins,


lovely.

high dose prescription only paracetamol in the UK is laced with an antidote (the amino acid metionine) but it's not licensed for over the counter as yet.
 
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kaylaaa

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Yeah I know. I was talking of the perception of "taking some pills" to end it all compared to "shooting a bullet through my head".
The acts are different, which could explain why medication suicide is more prevelant even in places where gun ownership is high.
 
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Aoqua

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My mate had a melon knife and told the police he was a raw food vegan, they gave it back to him and told him to keep it wrapped up in a cloth or in a pouch when not using it.

He is a vegan and was a raw food one at the time. While the knife was not an offensive weapon the same could not have been said for his digestive tract.
 
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Hyperalien

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With ODs, you're not visibly destroying the body.

I remember being flabbergasted years ago, when I found out that paracetamol deaths could be virtually stopped but for the sake of a few extra pennies for the pharmaceutical companies. The documentary I saw did not describe it as a licensing issue, but purely a profit thing. If true, that is sickening.
 
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sweetie92

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So according to many the second amendment gives Americans the "right" to own a gun. So I'm wondering just how solid is the constitution? Currently Obama is trying to claim there is a 100 mile wide zone inside American borders where the fourth amendment doesn't count.

Here's a nice map for illustration.
 
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perkins97

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Not just according to many but according to the Supreme Court, who has THE final say as to what is constitutional or not.
As to how solid it is? Not very IMO. Our government has a long history of ignoring it whenever they deem necessary for whatever they want to do. In practice it has been more "guiding principles" than anything. But that is no reason to ignore it! We Americans need to hold our government more accountable for its' actions, not give in and let them do whatever they want, even if the changes are for the better. If we need to improve it, we have defigned legal ways to ammend it.
 
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pinkchillys

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This is the key...and at the same time the problem

Too many have the "you can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand" approach, simply because they have a vested interest. Even if such legislation were passed the uproar and throwback against it would be insane and tie the system up for years...especially with lobbying groups like the NRA at the fore

Legislation this big simply has to be up to the US people to decide - and if the majority want tighter control? There goes the "second ammendment argument" in the wake of the "will of the people"....exactly as it should be
 
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prettyawesome52

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That's it in a nut shell. More firearm regulations don't necessarily mean sacking the second amendment, although it does open the door for it, which is why I'm against it. The fourth amendment as akiwolfie suggested as being trampled on is again technically correct. The biggest fear I have though is the first amendment. I don't know why but I just get a feeling that the government would like to have that one disappear. May be me just being paranoid.
 
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YvetteE

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Yea no doubt, that's why it's a slippery slope to allow too much regulation, the constitution get watered down and loses it's purpose.
 
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Surfin

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Well a "guiding principle" is generally speaking a lot less solid than a right.
 
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rhcp1fleafan

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As I had mentioned somewhere, how can anyone outside of a culture or especially a environment with firearms, take a position in how said other culture or laws of said culture, should be addressed?
 
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aldryn37

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One thing I don't really understand, which I'd be grateful if our American friends could explain, is why there is so much importance placed upon amendments to the US constitution.

The fact that it's been amended so many times suggests that people have at various times felt the need to improve it. Which is perfectly understandable, since a constitution is a 'living' thing, and if it was untouchable then it would become obsolete.

So why is it that the original constitution was amendable but the amendments are viewed as being untouchable? People talk about certain amendments, usually the second and the fourth, like they are Holy Writ.

I can understand if people think that the amendments are worth keeping exactly as they are, I'm simply a bit confused about their actual status and the way that people seem to view them.
 
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PeggySue

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Well, I'll give it a go. Keep in mind I am from the rural midwest. Born in farmlands and now living in cowboy country. First you have to recognize the parinoia Americans have about the government becoming a "police state". It is a justified view given the history of our government, but dealt with in irrational ways. During our education the first ten amendments, or Bill of Rights, is particularly stressed as foundational to our country. We are told this is what seperates us from other countries in the world. I think for many people protecting the Constitution(or their perception of it), is a way of venting their general frustration with an inept government. I also think for some that having a cause gives them a sence of purpose and importance(not a bad thing).
 
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