Many Injured in Explosions at Boston Marathon

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XfceFanboyt

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Yeah I saw something here a little while ago about them being boxers. I know martial arts, wrestling in particular, is very popular in that region of Russia. In fact a large part of Russian wrestling, boxing and offtopic competitors are from that region i.e. North Caucasus.

I'm pretty sure me or someone else posted this on another thread some time ago:

http://olympics.time.com/2012/07/19/olympic-russian-wrestling/

EDIT: Seems like the older brother was doing boxing at an offtopic gym:

http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/
 
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AllecS

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That was bad information--the missing Brown student and the other individual are NOT the same as the two Chechens. I feel bad about re-publishing the bad info and I'm trying to remove all references from my posts.
 
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ReverendMick

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I don't find it all that odd. Take Iran, the Arab states, and Israel. Israel has never done anything to Iran. And Israel doesn't get along with Iran's historic enemy, the Arab states. Practicality would suggest an Israeli-Iranian alliance. Yet the extremists in control in Iran are extremely anti-Israel...far more so than Israel's direct neighbors (particularly Jordan and Egypt). The ideology of "the Great Satan and the Little Satan" trumps practical alliance-building (the enemy of my enemy is my friend).

Iran = Chechnya, Arab states = Russia, and Israel = USA, and you have the same dynamic now.
 
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boby

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Perhaps. Though, its still weird to me. The Chechen separatists always had a very concrete goal, independence from Russia/Russian Empire. Whenever they would take hostages in Russia, their demands would be withdrawal of Russian troops from Chechnya. The US has only every criticized Russia on Chechnya, helped via various rights organizations and such, as well as supported some on/off allies of Chechen separatists in the region i.e. Georgia/Azerbaijan. But this is all prior to Chechens current leader / Russian pupet being put in place, who to his credit has really cleaned up the country, but by very questionable means. The current leader is very pro-Kremlin and has been exterminating separatists within Chechnya, which may be partly the reason this conflict has drifted a bit in to neighboring Dagestan. If we exclude the religious aspects (which of course must be considered), I just don’t see how a Chechen can see the US as an enemy. Of course if we do consider the Sunni Muslim side of it (most Chechens are) then perhaps it’s a different story in that the US's involvement in the middle east etc has offended their religious ideals etc etc.

Come to think of it, one of the major characters in their separatist struggle was this guy, a Saudi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Khattab

Anyway, I don’t know what up with this situation, but its definitely messed up.
 
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Tye1973

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The elephant in the room is the reoccurring problem with Muslim fundamentalism. I bet the underlying problem will be traced to that. Any takers
 
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italianprncss

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I have what might be a stupid question. The impression I'm getting from the news is the area of Boston the suspect was last known to be in is, or was, basically under lockdown with citizens told to stay in their homes while the police and national guard looked for the guy. If enough time passes that it seems likely he's not in the area anymore what happens? Do they just widen the search cordon which I'm guessing would be pretty hard, or do they call it a day on the big manhunt type operation and just keep everyone in Boston and the rest of the state on alert for the guy?
 
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