Need to painlessly poison and kill my neighbor's dogs?

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If a dog barks for more than 20 minutes at a time, especially at night, you know that the owner doesn't care. In fact, he may well get some sort of sadistic pleasure out of terrorising his neighbours. DO NOT speak to that neighbour about the problem. Instead, find out, ANONYMOUSLY, if there is any possible legal solution. By which I mean, are the police/council/animal control/courts likely to help you. If so, great. Go to the authorities and get them to sort it out for you. If not, DO NOT COMPLAIN to ANYONE. Don't even mention it to your best friends. Instead, kill the dog.

If you're a halfway decent person, you'll feel bad about this. And so you should. Killing a dog, which may result in a painful death for the animal and sadness for the owner and his family (especially kids) is not a nice thing to do. Then again, it is not a nice thing to deprive a neighbour of sleep, the opportunity to relax, and general peace and quiet. Your requirements are more important than any dog's. So unpleasant though it is, when it comes down to your life or the dog's life being ruined, it's a no-brainer. The dog has to go.

You can remove the dog and dump it far away, attack and kill it or poison it. There is more than enough information on this thread to tell you how so I don't need to repeat it. Just BE CAREFUL not to leave any trace of your actions or you could mess up your life far more than the dog ever did. Many countries will find ways to excuse scum who rob old women, but kill a dog and you'll be confronted with a mob with pitchforks and burning torches. DON'T GET CAUGHT.

TL;DR: Killing a dog is nasty, but better than living in misery. Good luck!
 
VICIOUS MAL EDUCATED DOG MUST BE SLAUGHTERED
All you idiots flea bags defenders should be slain too
I have heard about antifreeze but is nit that safe, they may not get it at all, rat poison has a very low poison title indeed.
Either go get REAL POISON or issue anonymous MENACE to the basserd owner of the scumbags, then get guns and a balaclava (America is lucky to still have guns) wait until a RAINY NIGHT and storm in the shithole.
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GOD SAVE AMERICA
 
Barking dogs are vermin. They should be exterminated. Thanks to all who have suggested means for doing so.
 
I should think 15 paracetamol (Panadol or other) tablets stuffed into a reasonably sized sausage and chucked into the dog's yard would prove fatal - that's about 7500mg. It probably is illegal to poison someone else's dog but I would have thought that generally the police would take the view that they had better things to do than investigate a dead pet dog (unless the owner's a senator or something). To even establish cause of death there'd need to be an autopsy to show the stomach contents - then it has to be proved it was intentional rather than accidental, then it has to be proved who did it. Video surveillance of the owner's property is probably the main thing that would catch you out.

If a dog is a real pest - ie. kills your animals, goes to bite or menaces you or your family, or even just barks all night and after repeated requests the owner doesn't stop this - I think it's totally appropriate to take it out. We're busy, socially responsible human beings, we've jobs to do, money to make, families to raise, and it's absurd for people to think that we can be consistently disrupted without things escalating to the dog dying. My only fear - and it is huge - with baiting is if a child should eat the bait and die. That's got to be manslaughter at least, not to mention just totally wrong at every level. I imagine a hungry child would probably eat a raw sausage he picked up off the ground, and this is the danger with all baits - you could keep an eye on things, to check no kid is wandering around near the bait.

I disagree with the craziness of so many of the posters here on both sides - real mental cases - but we're people, dogs are dogs, and if the fool wants to argue otherwise it is so much hot air.

Cruelty and resolving a problem are separate things. I have a dog. If it bit an intruder - it's job - I'd pat it, and give it a yummy. If it bit and caused real injury to a child, I would immediately kill it. I also wouldn't be the antisocial nitwit that surprisingly many dog owners are and leave the thing out barking for hours at night.
 
I correct myself 'after repeated requests the owner doesn't stop this' - I was wrong, the poster who said the fact that this consistently happens shows the owner doesn't care is right - so he is also right that you should kill the dog without complaining to anyone.
 
I correct myself 'after repeated requests the owner doesn't stop this' - I was wrong, the poster who said the fact that this consistently happens shows the owner doesn't care is right - so he is also right that you should kill the dog without complaining to anyone.

I agree, but I'd like to add that people shouldn't get the idea that killing a nuisance dog is an everyday thing like putting out a fly strip or rat trap. Not complaining about the dog beforehand and being careful to cover all tracks very much minimises the chance of being caught, but there will still be a risk involved. Like you say, it's unlikely that the FBI or Interpol will be mobilised to investigate the mutt's death, but if suspicion falls upon you in any way (e.g. you live next door and are most likely to gain from the dog snuffing it) you could have some awkward questions to answer. Most people aren't career criminals and/or good liars and if questioned by the police, will most likely give themselves away.


As a former victim of nuisance barking I can sympathise with anyone who is desperate enough to have to kill a dog, but I offer this note of caution: consider carefully the possible consequences before taking such a desperate measure. Good luck!
 
There's a story in today's Daily Mail "Man fed up with neighbour's barking dog attacked him with an AXE when he came round to apologise" which should be a salutary lesson to the selfish owners of barking dogs! (Can't post link here but a search should find it.)
 
Hi!
I'm glad I found this thread to communicate with people who can sympathize with my issue.


I've read many many pages of thise thread since when was started in 2007 and I've learned a lot about something I would never carry out if I wasn't pushed to the limit as I am.


Yet, I didn't find some answers to my problem, so I am going to ask a little help to those still connected to this topic, for the preparation and plannnig.


My story is not different from many others here, but I want to get you into some details to help you understand what I need.


My property borders on the backyard of my neighbour's house. Much to my bother I found the lady living there keeps a puppy in the wild there all the time. Alone. Never seen nobody training him, playing with him or taking him out for a run. Just a door opening once a day, somebody tossing out something to eat. Of course, this way puppy gets aggressive and he is always up, often barking day and night.


Police or lawyers would be no help, because in my country public nuisance is hard to prove: only if the dog would bark loud and 24 hours a day non-stop (which dog does?) I could take some legal action against the owner, no less than that.


So, I chosed the kind approach in fist place: I rang at her door with a smile on my face and talked to the lady, explained my condition (I work in the afternoons and the evenings 'till night, it's essential for me to have quiet through the night and early in the morning to rest). I simply suggested to keep the dog either indoor or in her front yard (a small alley connecting the front gate to the house, a safe place for dog) during this part of the day. She said “yes” but went on as she was used to do.
I went back again and again, once also bringing candies for her kids, trying to be accomodating and looking for a negotiation. Nothing. “It's my house and I do what I want.” Something like that. “The front alley is too small and I can't keep him indoor 'cause I've got parquet floor inside, I'm afraid he would scratch it!”.


Coming to this point, a rush of blood has been running through my head and I'm getting mad and mad as time goes on. I'm really pissed: you waste my life for not wasting your floor and you're dumb enough to get yourself a dog when you care much for your parquet floor?
It's time for the “warning” now. Don't let the dog out!


Now, because of this history between me and the lady and because it seems no one else in the neighbourhood ever complained (because no one else has his bedroom facing the dog area) I have to be very careful about every single step I take in this...


I cannot use the sponge with glass method and I'll have to drop anti-freeze and Tylenol too.
Anything a vet could say: “dog was poisoned”, or the lady would soon do the math come straight after me with the Police. I cannot let this happen, 'cause if I get charged it would be a trouble.
In my country, just being investigated by the Police it means a mark on your criminal record and this may lead either to lose your job or spend a lot of money with lawyers to prove them wrong.
I cannot afford that.


I need to stick to some natural way. Of course the lady would link me in but as long as she has no evidence she can't do nothing.


So, all this introduction for this question: what can I do to be sure that what I toss through the fence at night will be actually eaten by the dog in the morning, so that there will be no trace laying in the grass? I was under the impression that dogs eat only from their owner. Will it work?
And consequently which common food can I use to be sure puppy would find it in the bushes and suck it all?
Raisins? Grapes? What else?




Johnny
 
Hi Johnny

You've summed up your situation very well. You can't kill the dog by poisoning it, as you've made your grievance known to the stupid and selfish owner. Any chance you might be able to "accidentally" run it over?

The truth is that there are no magic cures. You have no doubt read some stuff about macadamia nuts and chocolate on here, but unless you feed large quantities of the stuff to the dog regularly, you'll get nowhere. As you rightly say, dogs often don't eat stuff that doesn't come from their owner. I put God knows how many poisonous packages out for a nuisance dog and it didn't go for any of them. Really you need to feed a strong poison, like rat poison or antifreeze or pesticide, directly to the dog and in your situation you obviously can't do that.

You are pretty much stuck with the legal route. Try to get the authorities involved and pester them if they won't play ball. If that fails, get a lawyer. Yes, lawyers are expensive but it may be that all you need is a threat of legal action to persuade the stupid woman to do something about the problem. A lawyerly letter shouldn't cost too much. Even if you have to go to court and the expenses mount up, surely it's worth sacrificing that holiday to get your life back. and if you win your case she'll have to pay costs anyway. Make it clear that you're only going to court to get your peace and quiet back, and that you're not a litigious type after money.

If that doesn't suit, is there anyone you can bribe to kill the dog while you're staying in a hotel somewhere, making a nuisance of yourself so everyone remembers you?

You have my deepest sympathies. Canine noise pollution is intolerable and completely avoidable, but some morons insist on inflicting it on decent, law-abiding people. This probably isn't much help, but good luck and I hope you get the nuisance dog sorted.
 
Thanks for your consideration.

But no, I drop the legal way, because: A) I have already taken legal advice and as I wrote above, there's is nothing I can do: in my country justice doesn't work properly for worse crime than this... B) I gave her a chance to mediate on this as civilized people, now it's no turning back.

It's just that I cannot kill the dog directly or paying somebody to do that because you get to this backyard of her by crossing my property and you get close to the dog only by climbing over the fence... so all traces would link back to me... such a nonsense!

But because my property it''s a flat in a condominium (the other residents don't complain nor would subscribe my legal war because their window doesn't face on the dog's area and they live on higher floors and blah blah), I can toss something thru the fence and make it look like an accident.

It's not essential for the dog to die in this step. I just want to give her a "warning". If she would have to spend a hundred euros or two to pay the vet maybe she would get a message: don't let the dog out at night, something can happen... You know, Carnival time is close here and maybe someone threw a raisin-ball from the window and it fell over there, just where the dog scratch about o something... not necessarily me.

And I want to monitor her reaction. I haven't been talking about the dog with anybody (incl. the owner) for six month and she doesn't know exactly my name, so I pass her the hardball: she has to come after me and accuse me of something and get a lawyer or the Police and they have to prove me guilty... which is not that automatic as if I would give the dog the rat poison.
She also may be scared of me and feel herself as she can't do nothing against me.
Which is what I hope. Call it a bluff, in this part of the process. If it doesn't work a much serious warning may occurr...

So, which technique would you suggest for this approach? Consider I'll have to duck and crawl on the grass in the night for 4 meters and I could toss over or stick my hand through an iron gate-like balustrade.


J.
 
Sounds like the legal situation where you live is a strange one. If the justice system is that useless, perhaps you could kill the dog without any real comeback from the authorities? It's a risk though and I can understand why you're reluctant to take it.

People who let their dogs bark all the time have one thing in common: they are very stupid. You could certainly try tossing some sort of concoction of grapes, chocolate, macadamia nuts and other stuff that can harm dogs over her fence. The question is: even if the dog does eat it and gets sick, will the owner get the message? Such people simply can't get it into their heads that their dogs' barking is a nuisance. In an earlier post here there's a quote from a forum where someone says that she knew something was wrong because her dog was NOT barking at 3 am, and yet she couldn't understand why anyone would try to poison it! My guess is that your neighbour would think that your little present arrived by accident, as you suggest.

I really don't know what you can do - perhaps another poster can be more helpful. Whatever you decide, good luck!
 
You've summed up your situation very well. You can't kill the dog by poisoning it, as you've made your grievance known to the stupid and selfish owner. Any chance you might be able to "accidentally" run it over?

Sorry to say, Johnny, but I agree with this poster. You can't kill the dog now because you've made the mistake of talking to the owner. Don't feel bad though. Many people have made the same mistake, because like you, they are decent people, and would rather resolve the situation peacefully instead of resorting to such cruel and drastic measures.

The trouble is, these dog owners are inconsiderate and cannot be reasoned with. If they actually cared about their neighbors, they would keep their dogs quiet.

You really only have three options in these situations:

1) Put up with the barking.
2) Kill the offending dog.
3) Move.

The dog owner should be the one forced to move and not you, but that's just the way the world works unfortunately.

I am kept awake by my neighbor's mongrel dogs almost every night. The only reason I didn't poison them is because I knew for a fact some other neighbors had complained to animal control about the dogs and I didn't want them getting blamed for it.

I hope to be moving from here in a couple of months time. If I'm forced to put up with another barking dog in my new home, the dog will be the one 'moving', not me.
 
Thanks guys for bringing up your point... I'll choose the try-to-do-something option.

First, I am going to try some natural stuff and see what happens, if I don't get anywhere maybe I will reconsider the anti-freeze or something...

About justice, who knows, yes the system here is about a joke.
Sure thing, if they catch me they will nail my ass, but before that they will have to prove something. Of course there's a lot of risk involved for my criminal record and possible money to burn in lawyers and I'm scared about that. But although I came out with the owner about the barking that doesn't necessarily means I'm the killer, not even in my country.
So my job here is be smart, leave no traces, avoid wrong moves and leave them very little to work on.

What I would like to get from you here is some tip, a sort of practical tutorial about how to make this concoction of say macacadamia nuts and raisins or whatever, how to keep the recipe together, how to make the dog smell it through the undergrowth and make it yummy... first the cooking, then the eating, then checking if she got the message, you know.
 
You should not only poison the dogs, poison the owners too.

Owners of barking dogs love it when their dog barks and disturbs the neighbors. They get off on it. If they EVER wanted to be considerate, they would keep their mangy, junk yard dogs in their house or garage. If not, they could purchase a bark collar which works, but they chose not to, so you should chose to do something about it. They are the sick, inconsiderate ones, not the quiet neighbors who want to actually use THEIR yard in peace and quiet, but never can.

Yes. This exactly. I live in a working class neighborhood and have always had neighbors with barking dogs. They're barking right now, at 6:30 am Saturday morning. These people have no class and are inconsiderate. Not only that, they have too many dogs because they're dog hoarders - at one point they had 5 dogs, 2 cats, and 5 people living in a tiny two bedroom ranch. I have a different neighbor who has a Rottweiler that he keeps inside most of the time and you'd barely know the dog exists except I see them out walking. My family also has a small dog that we keep indoors except when we're out with him (controlled or in our own back yard). I can't enjoy my own yard and sometimes can't sleep because of those mutts. I haven't poisoned them yet, but I think about it all the time. It would probably get me in less trouble than climbing on my roof with a rifle.
 
[snip] So, all this introduction for this question: what can I do to be sure that what I toss through the fence at night will be actually eaten by the dog in the morning, so that there will be no trace laying in the grass? I was under the impression that dogs eat only from their owner. Will it work? [snip]


Good point. I've made several attempts to rid myself of a barking problem, the most recent being a couple of weeks ago. The bloody dog's still there. My guess is that if a dog's not fed regularly, it will get hungry and eat food that's lying around. Most owners do feed their dogs properly even though they leave them outside to bark all day and night, so it's unlikely those dogs will eat anything you bung over the fence. I suspect many dogs are trained not to eat strange food - shame they're not trained to STFU at the same time!
 
Wish I could help. I've tried rat poison, roach poison, anti freeze, glass, straight pins, and treble fish hooks so far and the flee bag still barks all night every night. I can say that dogs will eat anything hidden in Vienna Wieners and the smell will draw them in quickly. Try dry runs a time or two without any harmful stuff until the flee bag gets used to the idea.
 
Wish I could help. I've tried rat poison, roach poison, anti freeze, glass, straight pins, and treble fish hooks so far and the flee bag still barks all night every night. I can say that dogs will eat anything hidden in Vienna Wieners and the smell will draw them in quickly. Try dry runs a time or two without any harmful stuff until the flee bag gets used to the idea.

I've tried everything too, like you have, with no luck. I've sent potentially lethal packages over that neighbour's fence more times than Justin Bieber's made a twat of himself. And that nasty yappy thing just keeps on keeping on. Wieners and dry runs sound like good tips - thanks, I'll try that. I am determined to kill that dog!
 
I also have a problem with a neighbours dog. Can't water my garden or hang out the washing with out this nasty Heinz variety going totally off its nut. It charges at the six foot high fence hitting it with such force that the hole thing shakes. It is very frightening and the owner does nothing about it. I fear for my life , that of my little dogs and my grandchildrens lifes.
 
Wish I could help. I've tried rat poison, roach poison, anti freeze, glass, straight pins, and treble fish hooks so far and the flee bag still barks all night every night. I can say that dogs will eat anything hidden in Vienna Wieners and the smell will draw them in quickly. Try dry runs a time or two without any harmful stuff until the flee bag gets used to the idea.

Dry runs with Wieners (raw or cooked?) and if it works then stiff the sausage with I guess odorless stuff? which indeed?

J.


P.S. Bread soaked in anti-freeze didn't work either in your case? I was under the impression the smell would draw flea bag easily...
 
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