Ok then why do so called believers of the bible still think Christ was born on

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Dec 25th? When it says the shepards were in the field... You know it wouldn't be winter.

Oh... how blinded people are :)
 
the early church tride to christianize the pagan holidays...no one claims we are celebrating the actual birthday of Jesus.
 
CHRISTIANS know Jesus wasn't born on 12/25. It's not important WHEN He was born but that He WAS born, died and rose to life again.

It's the non-believers who have fallen for Hallmarks cow plop cards. They're biblically ignorant and believe the gospel of Hallmark.
 
Most people know you speak the truth. It's a time of joy at the lowest ebb of the sun..to raise our spirits.
 
I am a Christian who DOES celebrate Christmas........but.......I also recognize that Christ was probably born in the fall and not on December 25th
 
Christ was probably born on the Fall. I personally don't celebrate Christmas in fact, I HATE Christmas, not for religion reason but in Canada, winter is a very depressing season
 
Christmas is a pagan holiday. The early Christians did not celebrate it “because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom,” says The World Book Encyclopedia. The pagan festivals of Saturnalia and New Year are the source of the merrymaking and exchange of presents.

If Christmas is essentially pagan, genuine Christians must ask the question, Is Christmas for Christians?

Although the exact details are lost in the mists of antiquity, indications are that by 336*C.E., a form of Christmas was being celebrated by the Roman church. “The date of Christmas was purposely fixed on December 25,” explains The New Encyclopædia Britannica, “to push into the background the great festival of the sun god.” That was when pagans indulged in orgies during the festivals of both the Roman Saturnalia and the Celtic and German feast of winter solstice. The New Caxton Encyclopedia says that “the Church seized the opportunity to Christianize these festivals.”

It's believed the birth of Christ was October. However even though many think his birth is of importance, these ones are wrong, its Jesus death that is. Jesus only asked his followers to celebrate his death which true followers do once every year on Nisan 14.
 
Jesus was likely born in the spring. That's common knowledge.
Dec 25th was chosen to counter the pagan celebration of the winter solstice.
 
I realize he was most likely born in October, do you realize that Christmas was celebrated at different months on the calendar until people agreed to celebrate on the 25th of December? It is more of a secular holiday today than it is about Christ anyway. But celebrating his birth and his rising from the grave does help me to remember him more than just complaining about things to just stir up peoples' anger.
 
Just because we celebrate Christmas, doesn't mean we think that Christ was born on Dec 25! Goodness, you are so proud.
 
Christmas is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it's origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!

The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!

Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war.

The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas – PAGAN!

The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash. But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated - ALL PAGAN!

Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle - PAGAN!

In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!

Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!

Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor – PAGAN!

In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking. The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!

The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored. Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.

The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship. Holly and ivy represented male and female. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual - all PAGAN!

Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children. Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!

The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!

AMERICA ACTUALLY BANNED CHRISTMAS several times and is the originator of the expression “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!

The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!

Christmas is the time of year christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become!
 
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