On a better team, would Taylor Hall be the best rookie in the league?

[MARTIN]

Taylor Hall is the leading scorer on the Oilers and has the third most points among rookies in the league. The Oilers, as much as I hate to say it, are not very good. On a better team, say if Boston had picked him and Edm had picked Seguin, do you think he would be dominating the Calder competition?

 

[BobLoblawSix]

No, I think that is hogwash. I think he would probably have less points and I think there are probably teams where he wouldn't even of made the big club.

Also, vice versa, Tyler Seguin would have MORE points playing on the less talented Oilers club. Seguin gets 12 minutes ice time per game with the Bruins and Hall gets 18 minutes per game with the Oilers. Hall is playing on a top line. Seguin is not. Hall gets 2:43 of PP time per game. Seguin gets 1:18 PP ice time per game.

He would have about as many points as Seguin does because he would have a reduced role.......although I think he has a brighter future than Seguin.

He would be worse off in the Calder race and not even in consideration.

6 minutes LESS ice time, half the PP time and often times skating with less talented players.....can't see that transforming to better stats.

 

[jordanv]

I think he would. But you have to also make a case for Jeff Skinner. I mean he is on pace to be the highest scoring rookie. He has also put Tuomo Ruutu on pace for a career high in points. Taylor Hall i think will grow into a top 3 forward who can score 40 goals every season. Skinner i could see being a top 3 forward averaging a point per game.

Either one that you pick, They would be a lot better with a better team and better line mates in Skinner's case.

 

[oni_link_04]

That's a tough argument to make. The Oilers had Taylor Hall playing top line minutes the instant he came into the league. Boston has been much more protective of Tyler Seguin, as he is not necessary to be the man carrying the load currently for the Bruins. Hall needed to play for the Oilers right away to sell tickets and to add some real scoring punch.
Jeff Skinner has been in the same situation in Carolina. He was inserted right away and was expected to play in the top 6 for Carolina. Skinner does have the advantage of playing for a team that is better and in a weaker Conference, but he's still a primary cog that Carolina has used from day 1.
Logan Couture is another prime example of what happens when you play within the top 6 forwards.

If you put Taylor Hall on Boston, he's not in the top 6 forwards, he's not on the powerplay, and he doesn't have the output that he has. Anyways, this is an irrelevant question, as Hall is done for the year.

 

[machinehead]

It's a grey area. A better team would mean better teammates, but depending on the player it could mean less ice time as well. If it were Crosby or Ovechkin, they'd get 1st line time regardless and would reap the benefits of better teammates. For a kid like Hall, who's not an established 1st liner, less time would factor in as well. Then it also depends on the team. Is Hall getting less time on the 2nd or 3rd line, or is he with 4th liners? Depends on how good the team is. If it's a middle of the pack team and he ends up with decent time, I'd say it's a positive, but if it's a very good team and he ends up on the 4th line, it's a negative.