The Death Penalty

ive heard that the prisoners who are serving long times get alot of home from home comforts, like satellite t.v. and stuff.

i just dont like the fact that money from taxes goes to support prisons and murderers. wouldnt it just be easier to get rid of them. i may come across as a bit cold hearted but...
 
Right with you on this line of thinking. In fact, it costs more money to house an inmate in the US then it does to pay the correctional officer to watch him/her. Now I support the death penalty but we have way too many appeals in the system for it to be a deterant. I also had to debate AGAINST the death penalty in college. So I know both sides of the argument. It is my personal opinion that when a person is sentenced to death, the appeals should be: State Appellate Court
U. S. Supreme Court
DONE!
None of this 20 years on Death Row. Just my opinion
 
As far as I know it costs mroe to sentence someone to death.

As far as I know executing poeple for crimes like paedophillia will actually lead to less cases being reported in the first place.

As far as I know you can never be 100% certain about anything.

As far as I can tell, if it's a choice between life in prison and execution it really is a choice betrween life in prison and executions so ultimatly it's still in it's way a death penalty.

Knowing all this I really can't support the death penalty.

On top of that it's my opinion that in situations where the death penalty might be applied it's way to emotive a case to trust human judgement that much so the chance of the decision being correct would be less than usual in the cases where it really mattered the most.

It's my opinion that just because jails are way to cushy for some people's tastes (People who probably haven't been to jail I'm guessing) it's in no way an argument for killing people.

On the subject of the 9/11 ass hat, I'm unsure what he's been convicted of but I didn't think it was murder was it? (genuine question) If that is the case then you can't argue for killing someone on the grounds that there a git. Sorry but thats not the way things work. If it's the other way roumnd and he is guilty of murder it still backs my case because it shows that the justice system is a bit on the erratic side.
 
He was convicted for not acting to prevent the attacks. I understand all of your arguements against the death penalty I do. I have worked in a large jail here in the states (over 1000 prisoners). TOO cushy? Heck, the inmates actually have more rights then most of us walking around free. But if we could change the system where inmates had to work off their debt to society (meaning make jails a bad place to be) then maybe I can agree that the death penalty could be abolished. Until the bleeding hearts will make that change, I am for it. Again, I do agree with you on your points, but some people do not deserve to keep breathing.
 
Haha... But nothing. I agree with you. It makes me furious how many decent people have money taken out of their wages so Ian Huntley and the like are allowed to eat like humans and sleep on beds. I wonder what comforts he allowed them two innocent girls?



That's probably true. All the technicalites. Should just go Medieval. Go into a rapists cell and just bonk him on the head with a large metal object. Repeatedly.
 
Great breakdown. When I started in corrections in '87, starting salary for a correctional officer was 24,000 a year. It is now $30k where I used to work. Still costs more to house them whether they are doing straight time or they are given the Death Penalty.
 
Have you seen the average cell in the prison that he is going to spend the rest of his life in? Unless Americans have a very different definition of cushy then I'm calling BS here.
 
Don't get me wrong, he is going to the most punitive, restrictive facility in the US. He will do hard time. That still doen't negate the fact that the taxpayers will be paying a lot to house him.
 
so you'd sooner put him down, add strength to his cause and increase the risk of more terrorist attacks in the US and to US forces outside of the US?
 
Never made such a statement. As I have said previously, I am in favor of the death penalty but I have had to argue against in a college debate. In this case, I think his punishment fits the crime. He did not actually kill anyone. Is he complicit? I will let others make that determination. But judging how he is acting now, saying he wants to retract his confession and such, he is playing the system for more then his 15 minutes. He should be buried in that cell and never heard from again.
 
I think you misjudge the sentiments and mindsets of al Qaeda and ilk. Moussouai (sorry, sp?) himself admitted his total lack of respect for the US and our judicial system. As NS said, he's now just playing the system for what he can get out of it. The al Qaeda mindset misinterprets any show of mercy, and our adherence to principles of law, even in sentencing cold-blooded murderers, as a sign of weakness and a cause for utter contempt.

As far as 'more terrorist attacks', does anyone following this thread actually believe that ANY course of action we take will make al Qaeda 'like' us and be our friends?
 
well i think that the death penalty is a good thing. i think that in some cases people should go through some pain for the pain that they have done to others. im not into movie vengence, but there r some cases where the person deserves what is comin to them!!!
 
I agree.
There is an Australian movie called Wolf Creek, watch it, and tell me there should be no death penalty.
 
His execution would have been used as yet another tool for recruiting young Muslims to their cause, that is their modus operandi. Moussaoui wasn't always a extremist, he was brainwashed, just as many Al Qaeda members were, if you look at the case without the veil of emotion surrounding 9/11 then it is clear that US interests are best served by this verdict.
 
I say hang the rapists and kiddie fiddlers and wife beaters.
but failing that life in prison should be till they die in a small cell furnished only with a bed and a book writen in a language they cannot understand.
 
The U.S. will be regarded as the enemy by many Arabs for generations to come, there is no doubt about that, far too much damage has been done for it to be fixed in the forseeable future. However, there's a lot that the US continues to do things on a daily basis that compounds the situation even further.
 
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