The Prophecy of Israel is wrong?

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Amir

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Okay god said that when he would curse the land of jesursilum/isreal to be infertile (which it is)and that there would be war (which there is).....he said when he brought them back into the land everything would be good again and that there would be peace...well that land is claimed by the Jews again since WW2 but there is war constantly and they have to import trees and soil to survive...so was the prophecy wrong or are those not the jews (which alot of people have been talking about lately)
 
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Bagelman

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I think the God-led return of the Jews to their homeland hasn't occurred yet.
Meaning, for instance, we can marry but unless it is the right time and especially your "soul mate" it probably won't work.
 
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wwwepeacebyjesus

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You need to be more specific, and patient. The fact that God predicted that in the last day period He would "make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people," and that they are the only people in history who maintained a distinct identity for about 2,000 years without a homeland, and then got (part of) it back, is a miracle.

And Jerusalem is what you watch in the future, in which all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it," (Zechariah 12:3) which is yet to come.

More: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/israel-chosenorforgotten.html
 
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†PRAY†

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You are mixing up the prophecies ..& their time frames. It is also an error to think that everything will come in our lifetime as God is eternal and has his own time frame.
God has been bringing back the Jews in Israel, but the event has not finished, they are still coming back.
The land of Israel is very fertile & productive.
They will not have real peace until Jesus comes back to earth. The bible says when we see Jerusalem surrounded by her enemies that the end is near..
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Mathew

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"he said when he brought them back into the land everything would be good again and that there would be peace..."

You stopped reading too soon. EVERY TIME God said they would return to the land and there would be plenty and there would be peace, He always followed that with, "if you will remember the Covenant I made with you, and keep my Commandments, and you will be My people and I will be your God" (or words to that effect). If the Jews don't recognize God as their God (many, probably most, Jews are atheists or fall into other religions), and a small minority keep the Commandments, (and those who do are ridiculed by many of the rest) then the blessings will not fall upon Israel, either. The solution to the Palestinian Problem is for the Jews to all accept God and begin keeping the Covenant. At that point, God will protect the people and the Land, and the Palestinians will slink off into the woodwork and there will be peace.
You are right when you say the prophecies have come to pass up until the point when God says there will be peace and prosperity when the Jews return to the Land, but they haven't returned in fulfillment of the prophecy yet. The ones who have ARE really Israel, but not ALL of Israel. When the rest are repatriated (and they take control of ALL of the Land promised to them by God), THEN will there be peace and prosperity.
Oh, and when the Jews did begin to return, the land DID begin to flourish. It produces more now than it did 150 years ago, or even 100 years ago, but when the lost tribes and the Jews who now live outside Israel return to their Land, it will; be MUCH more fruitful still.
 
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WREN

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Israel grows more than 40 varieties of citrus fruits and has a huge exporting business.They grow over 95% of their own produce, in a land where underground springs ensure no droughts. And all this on land that is only 20% arable. Israel isn't doing too bad for a country that is supposed to be infertile !
Israel stands alone amongst the countries that are around her because they suffer many droughts and water shortages. Israel does not. !

The jews have returned to the land that God gave as a covenant to Abraham, for him and his descendants through the child of promise ( Isaac), forever.
The land of Canaan.

God has never revoked His Word. It stands for all time.


...and as for war ? It hasn't started yet..
The muslim countries surrounding Israel want this country and it's people eliminated and they want the land..and will cause a war to happen but that is another story, that God will end..coming soon...
The Hebrews are God's chosen people and the land is what He gave them, for all time and only desperate people, ( or fools ) choose go against God..to do so is at their own peril..
Sheer numbers or force of power will not ensure victory, but they will try, for they are ruled by their desires....so no...no prophecy for a time such as this, is wrong.
But everything will happen in God's timing not ours.
 
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