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Clearly we have different scales of religious people and how commited they are to the literal translations, and in the center we have people who are really, really, down to their toes, committed to religious principles, you know like the Jews who were all the items suggested in the Torah,
these religious principles actually are different as you move from religion to religion. I mean, no matter how fanatical someone becomes as a Jain,
the core principle of which is peace they’re not going to fly an airplane into a building over their humiliation or grievances, because it would be repudiation of everything that they’ve organized their life around. Its against their fundemental beleifs.
And so it matters that at the core of Islam there are principles like martyrdom and Jihad. It really matters that Islam views itself as a religion that will be victorious in this world, politically and materially, there will be a true Islamification of the planet. That people will either convert or die, or
Christians and Jews will live as, it’s called Dhimi, (I think?) as some kind of apartheid situation where they bpay a protection tax, this is the view of moral order that you get from Islam. I it really is, it’s not
the crazy Al-Qaeda, “I just went to a training camp in Afghanistan Islam”, it is mainstream Islam.Another one of the problems I find and others have noted also, is that for a lot of understandable reasons and some for
really deplorable reasons, many Muslims, are playing hide the ball with the articles of faith, and are eager to have the conversations of the sort you have had from a very cynical and manipulative perspective.
We’re just going to keep having big families, and eventually it’s going to be Eurabia, and the war will be won.
There are people who really think in those terms, and they’re not necessarily just the people
in the center of the bull’s-eye of Islamic infatuation. I am not saying this is the true Islam as I have mentioned before its really hard to say who a true Muslim is.
They can be several cantos out, just the kind of people who would never blow themselves up, but who think it’s a good thing that some people will,and they don’t really care if they blow up non-combatants. They view Danish cartoonists drawing images of the prophet as a moral offense equivalent to dropping bombs on people or flying planes into buildings.