Viewer Disrection! Animal Cruelty From Farm To Fridge

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andxshesxhere

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Another thing: in this country we have things like the red tractor logo to show that meat has been sourced from responsible producers and that the animals have not been mistreated. Consumers can buy meat in the sure knowledge that it isn't coming from 'cowboy' farmers or slaughterhouses. If everyone buys responsibly, then there will simply be no demand for illegal meat. And no demand means no supply.
 
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WHoiZGRuNT

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It's a nice idea in principle , however , this meat is more expensive so many people will just go for the cheaper (Less ethically sourced) meat , as it tastes the same.
 
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supercoolbadasskid

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That's true. But as consumers we have a choice, and our choices have an impact. Probably more impact than our votes do.

I'm sure it's only consumer concern over past food scares that led to the introduction of things like the 'red tractor' scheme. Even with the 'economy' ranges at the supermarkets, a certain degree of animal welfare has to be met. I'm sure the availablity of meat from really dodgy farms and abbatoirs is far less than it was (say) thirty years ago, and that seems to be the real issue here.

As for it tasting the same, that isn't always the case. I once bought some chicken from the 'economy' range at Asda, and it was completely tasteless, so it was really just money wasted. I'd rather pay a bit more and get something worth eating. (Or else go to my local butcher and get really delicious corn-fed free-range chicken which costs somewhere inbetween the supermarket's 'economy' and 'red tractor' ranges, and is better than either.)
 
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misscutie4eva

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I'd wager it not how your MIL or her house-boy kills chickens that would turn heads but rather the, ah - I'm going to be pleasant here - rather the conditions in which the birds are housed and brought to market.

I made the mistake of going with my MIL on one of her daily trips to the market in old Canton and I never felt the same about eating poultry again.

I know why Asian Bird Flu spreads the way it does over there.
 
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anastasiaa

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I'm broadly in agreement with you , and had a similar experience with ASDA chicken myself , though they seem to have improved a bit lately.
My point was for many families (including my own in the past) , cost is the major factor when food shopping , you find yourself just concentrating on feeding 5 people for 7 days rather than being too concerned with where it came from.
I tried to encourage my wife to use the local butcher and green grocer (both well regarded) more often , but she always says she hasn't got the time to run around.
 
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fccta32@sbcglobalenet

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I know exactly what you mean. When money is tight, ethical shopping isn't your highest priority.

But I don't have a lot of money to throw around, and I eat well. For example, cheaper cuts of meat are one way of making the money go further without having to sacrifice quality and flavour. Cheap cuts can taste every bit as good as the more expensive ones, they just tend to need cooking for longer!
 
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jeyuythgbnetywethtrenet

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I don't have much time for cooking during the week, so I often cook something like a huge stew/chilli/curry on a weekend, then reheat it several times during the week. It isn't just economical, it also tastes better after the first time. (Especially the stew.)
 
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ErichB

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Yes. Except they don't farm batteries

On a closer note; It doesn't matter how caged, tied, contained, a animal, from its birth (and in the case of chickens;pre-birth), is? They are still going to be slaughtered and serve as one purpose: food for a higher level of creature

Speaking of "pre-birth", a.k.a. eggs, do you thing that a mother hen doesn't get equally or more stressed than a caged bird realizing that her eggs are gone?

Do you think stock animals realize how cruel they are being treated? All they know is that they exist. They exist to breed more.

I don't feel sorry for my food, I feel hungry for it
 
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flygirl69

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What a stupid statement that is and shows a complete ignorance on your part.

If you're right and animals just "know they exist", then that's the very reason we have food standard agencies.

Eating the meat from caged birds is fine, it's not going to be as nice as a free range bird, but if it has passed the required standard then all no problem, but your statement reads as though standards don't matter.

I'm a meat eater and will eat the meat from caged birds occasionally, although I don't like the eggs from caged birds, but standards do matter and do make a difference.
 
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Tltom

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you actually can seek out free-range organic poultry and pasture-raised beef pretty easily in the states. and it doesn't cost that much more (not 10X more which someone else posted), which for me, is worth it. there's nothing more important that what you put into your mouth, or the mouths of your family.

organic, free range chicken tastes better in my opinion. it's also WAY less fatty. i prefer chicken dark meat anyway, so it doesn't bother me if i don't have hormonely massive chicken breast.
 
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bonrwithbling

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also, while i've yet to order some, i just recently read about this gentleman from kentucky , breeding chicken for flavor not efficiency.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-09-25/features/sc-food-0920-better-chicken-20130925_1_david-wilson-chicken-bird
 
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MileyCyrusFanForLife

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Yeah, here in Oregon, cage-free and hormone-free poultry and eggs are 2x or 3x more expensive than the agribusiness stuff, not 10x more expensive, and they're available in every grocery store. Eggs are so darned cheap that even "twice as expensive" for the humane stuff is still dirt cheap; they're my main source of animal protein, with free-range chicken coming in at #2 and everything else being "occasional or social-event consumption only." I have no interest in going vegetarian or vegan (I tried once and I had both fatigue and depression issues), but it's easy to modify a meat-eating diet to minimize dollars sent to this reprehensible agribusiness stuff.

I'm also potentially going to start duck-hunting soon. Meat doesn't get much more humane than wild game.
 
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