1Th 4:13 - 16 -
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are ASLEEP, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which SLEEP IN Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are ASLEEP.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and THE DEAD IN MESSIAH SHALL RISE FIRST:
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If you noted, all the proceeding passages said : SLEEP or ASLEEP in Messiah ( Jesus / Yahshua )
Let me emphatically state:" THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS BEING DEAD IN MESSIAH "
Here is why:
Joh 11:26 -
And whosoever LIVETH and believeth in me SHALL NEVER DIE . Believest thou this?
If one does not understand the line drawn between, natural life, spiritual life / natural death and spiritual death, he will not understand Messiah words nor will he understand Paul,s words.
If one that lives and believe in Messiah shall NEVER die, how then can there be anyone DEAD in him ?
So the correct word is ASLEEP in Messiah.
Messiah is now ascended into heaven where he Sets on the right hand of the father.
How can anyone RISE INNNNN him if he is in heaven and they are in the Grave or Ground ?
I am trying to show the misunderstanding about the DEAD rising first.
It's not RISING of out the GROUND, but from with in HIM, where they are ASLEEP.
We who are ALIVE INNNNN him is the one with his holy spirit in us, that's what make one be ALIVE.
It is by the holy spirit that TRANSLATE us into heaven with them that are ASLEEP in him in heaven. ( according Col.1:13 )
So when Messiah APPEARS and the end, they who is INNNNNN him ASLEEP, shall rise INNN him 1st! THEN WE! that are ALIVE and still remain on Earth Bodily but spiritually in Heaven with them INNNN Messiah, shall be CAUGHT up TOGETHER with them. ( NOT RAPTURE ) and we will ALL be brought WITH Messiah to JUDGE or punish the wicked.
Col 3:3 -
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Messiah, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Now see that ? HE! is our LIFE and we are dead ( DEAD TO SIN, but ALIVE to RIGHTEOUSNESS ) so he has to be in you for you to be ALIVE. Then when he APPEAR, you APPEAR with him, he does not come to RAPTURE NOBODY!
Ro 6:11 -
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, but ALIVE UNTO God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ro 6:13 -
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, AS those that are ALIVE FROM THE DEAD,
Now see that ? Already alive from the dead.......
Where do you disagree with me at ?
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are ASLEEP, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which SLEEP IN Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are ASLEEP.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and THE DEAD IN MESSIAH SHALL RISE FIRST:
>>>>>>
If you noted, all the proceeding passages said : SLEEP or ASLEEP in Messiah ( Jesus / Yahshua )
Let me emphatically state:" THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS BEING DEAD IN MESSIAH "
Here is why:
Joh 11:26 -
And whosoever LIVETH and believeth in me SHALL NEVER DIE . Believest thou this?
If one does not understand the line drawn between, natural life, spiritual life / natural death and spiritual death, he will not understand Messiah words nor will he understand Paul,s words.
If one that lives and believe in Messiah shall NEVER die, how then can there be anyone DEAD in him ?
So the correct word is ASLEEP in Messiah.
Messiah is now ascended into heaven where he Sets on the right hand of the father.
How can anyone RISE INNNNN him if he is in heaven and they are in the Grave or Ground ?
I am trying to show the misunderstanding about the DEAD rising first.
It's not RISING of out the GROUND, but from with in HIM, where they are ASLEEP.
We who are ALIVE INNNNN him is the one with his holy spirit in us, that's what make one be ALIVE.
It is by the holy spirit that TRANSLATE us into heaven with them that are ASLEEP in him in heaven. ( according Col.1:13 )
So when Messiah APPEARS and the end, they who is INNNNNN him ASLEEP, shall rise INNN him 1st! THEN WE! that are ALIVE and still remain on Earth Bodily but spiritually in Heaven with them INNNN Messiah, shall be CAUGHT up TOGETHER with them. ( NOT RAPTURE ) and we will ALL be brought WITH Messiah to JUDGE or punish the wicked.
Col 3:3 -
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Messiah, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Now see that ? HE! is our LIFE and we are dead ( DEAD TO SIN, but ALIVE to RIGHTEOUSNESS ) so he has to be in you for you to be ALIVE. Then when he APPEAR, you APPEAR with him, he does not come to RAPTURE NOBODY!
Ro 6:11 -
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, but ALIVE UNTO God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ro 6:13 -
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, AS those that are ALIVE FROM THE DEAD,
Now see that ? Already alive from the dead.......
Where do you disagree with me at ?