Which bible "prophecies" cannot fit into any of these categories?

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There are several mundane ways in which a prediction of the future can be fulfilled:

* Retrodiction. The "prophecy" can be written or modified after the events fulfilling it have already occurred.
* Vagueness. The prophecy can be worded in such a way that people can interpret any outcome as a fulfillment. Nostradomus's prophecies are all of this type. Vagueness works particularly well when people are religiously motivated to believe the prophecies.
* Inevitability. The prophecy can predict something that is almost sure to happen, such as the collapse of a city. Since nothing lasts forever, the city is sure to fall someday. If it has not, it can be said that according to prophecy, it will.
* Denial. One can claim that the fulfilling events occurred even if they have not. Or, more commonly, one can forget that the prophecy was ever made.
* Self-fulfillment. A person can act deliberately to satisfy a known prophecy.

Which bible "prophecies" cannot easily fit into one or more of those categories?
 
One off the top of my head. The prediction of Jesus about the fall of the Temple in Jerusalem during The Olivette Discourse. Don't tell me this isn't verifiable there were historians from Rome and Jerusalem who documented what happened.
 
See Book of Revelations. It would be pretty hard to string those prophecies coming one after another in a span of 3 and a half years.
 
I don't know of one that fits into ANY of those categories. Oh, I'm sure you've convinced yourself that they do because if you don't, you might actually have to take God seriously.

And of course, you've got "Retrodiction" as your great backup. Any prophecy you can't twist enough to squeeze into one of the other categories, you can just claim is "Retrodiction". It's mere presence in the list discredits your whole premise.
 
There is another category called "Postdiction" which is where the fulfillment is written to match the prophesy. This is how most of the Jesus prophesy fulfillment is accomplished. The rest are Retrodiction.

That is why the Jesus story is a myth.

Rev. Neil
 
Professor Peter W. Stoner who authored “Science Speaks” stated that the probability of just eight particular prophecies being fulfilled in one person is 1 in 1017, i.e. 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000). The eight prophecies used in the calculation were:

1. Messiah is to be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2; fulfilled in Matt. 2:1-7; John 7:42; Luke 2:47).

2. Messiah is to be preceded by a Messenger (Isaiah 40:3; Malachi 3:1; fulfilled in Matthew 3:1-3; 11:10; John 1:23; Luke 1:17).

3. Messiah is to enter Jerusalem on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9; fulfilled in Luke 35-37; Matthew 21:6-11).

4. Messiah is to be betrayed by a friend (Psalms 41:9; 55:12-14; fulfilled in Matthew 10:4; 26:49-50; John 13:21).

5. Messiah is to be sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; fulfilled in Matthew 26:15; 27:3).

6. The money for which Messiah is sold is to be thrown “to the potter” in God’s house (Zechariah 11:13; fulfilled in Matthew 27:5-7).

7. Messiah is to be silent before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7; fulfilled in Matthew 27:12).

8. Messiah is to be executed by crucifixion as a thief (Psalm 22:16; Zechariah 12:10; Isaiah 53:5,12; fulfilled in Luke 23:33; John 20:25; Matthew 27:38; Mark 15:27,28).

This statement was validated by the American Scientific Affiliation. This number has been illustrated as follows:

If we take 1 X 1017 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas, they'll cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one?
 
I don't usually answer your questions. Especially since you blocked me before. But the following prophecies do not fit any of the discriptions you mention. There is no way these could be prophecized in such detail and nobody could cause these to be fulfilled.

The prophet Isaiah foretold that the Messiah would be a descendant of King David. (Isaiah 9:7) Jesus was indeed born in David’s line.—Matthew 1:1, 6-17.
Micah, another prophet of God, foretold that this child would eventually become a ruler and that he would be born in “Bethlehem Ephrathah.” (Micah 5:2) At the time of Jesus’ birth, there were two towns in Israel that were named Bethlehem. One was situated near Nazareth in the northern region of the country, and the other, near Jerusalem in Judah. Bethlehem near Jerusalem was formerly called Ephrathah. Jesus was born in that town, exactly as the prophecy foretold!—Matthew 2:1.
Another Bible prophecy foretold that the Son of God would be called “out of Egypt.” The child Jesus was taken into Egypt. He was brought back after the death of Herod, thus fulfilling the prophecy.—Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:15.
In the chart on page*200, the scriptures listed under the heading “Prophecy” contain details concerning the Messiah. Please compare these with the scriptures listed under the heading “Fulfillment.” Doing so will further strengthen your faith in the truthfulness of God’s Word.
While you examine these scriptures, keep in mind that those of a prophetic nature were written down hundreds of years before Jesus’ birth. Jesus stated: “All the things written in the law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms about me must be fulfilled.” (Luke 24:44) As you can verify in your own copy of the Bible, fulfilled they were—in every detail!
[Chart on page*200]
PROPHECIES REGARDING THE MESSIAH
EVENT PROPHECY FULFILLMENT
Born of the tribe of Judah Genesis 49:10 Luke 3:23-33
Born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:18-25
Descended from King David Isaiah 9:7 Matthew 1:1, 6-17
Declared by Jehovah to be
his Son Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17
Not believed in Isaiah 53:1 John 12:37,*38
Entered Jerusalem riding an ass Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:1-9
Betrayed by a close associate Psalm 41:9 John 13:18, 21-30
Betrayed for 30 silver pieces Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 26:14-16
Silent before his accusers Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 27:11-14
Lots cast for his garments Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35
Reviled while on the stake Psalm 22:7, 8 Matthew 27:39-43
None of his bones broken Psalm 34:20 John 19:33,*36
Buried with the rich Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60
Raised before corruption Psalm 16:10 Acts 2:24,*27
Exalted to God’s right hand Psalm 110:1 Acts 7:56
 
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