Why do Christians say that the 'Gospels' were inspired by Christ when they

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in fact don't agree? I only received three answers to this question so I'll post it again.
Why are they not 'According to Christ'? I know how people can explain things differently but the Bible has contradictions in it and G-d doesn't contradict HIMSELF. This is not a rant. This is just a student who stepped out of the norm and challenged the Bible late at night while everyone else slept. The Bible spoke clear to me when it makes statements like: "The soul who sins is the soul who dies... The soul who repents shall surely live." Ezekiel 18 and 19.

I cannot be fooled by pastors or reverends who say that this was meant for such and such verse so therefore you are misunderstanding. No. It is very clear that the soul who repents shall surely live. G-d is Oft Forgiving and not Shylock. The Old Testament and the New do not agree according to my thinking and yes, I am one against 2 billion. Yes, but I have common sense and the Jew tells me, as Christ himself was a Jew, that G-d is One and not Three in one. They tell me, regardless if they didn't accept Messiah, according to their own language that the Christian is wrong 'according to the language of the Hebrew when the New Testament is translated.

How could it be inspired by the Holy Spirit when they disagree? They do. I know this. This is fact and not some Sunday school teacher that is just re-reading some scripture to me being blind his or herself. Lying against the Holy Spirit is Unforgivable, so therefore, saying that the Bible is from the Holy Spirit is a lie against the Holy Spirit and according to the 'Gospel' this is unforgivable.
How could this be from the Holy Spirit? In the Old Testament G-d is One but in the plural of respect form and the Jew knows this for this is basic first commandment. Elohim; two plurals; one for respect when speaking of G-d Almighty; and one for speaking of Angels,ETC.

Why do Christians say that the 'Gospels' were inspired by Christ when they in fact don't agree?
 
where does the gospel disagree with each other. They all say that Jesus is the Son of God, the Savior, the One who was to come. They say He died for the sins of the world and that He rose again from death. They also talk about His second coming. So where do they disagree??
Deut 6:4: "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" Echad, here signifies unity among a group. the concept of Trinity was from the beginning. Look into the Hebrew translation on the word ONE. Two different forms of One is mentioned. Echad and Yachid. The word HEN is used in Greek to signify oneness in unity. John 10:10.
 
The Old Testament was before Jesus died on a cross for our sins. ALL sins are forgiveable now because of what he did. Everything in the Old Testament, such as being unclean and needing to take a shower and being unclean until evening, was before Jesus took upon himself all sin and died the death that would wash us clean. Now, we don't have to do any 'works' to 'earn our spot in heaven' or earn God's love because He did it by himself, which is awesome..

The Three in One ordeal.. no where in the Bible does it actually say "Trinity" but it does leave the idea that there is a trinity, a.k.a. God the Father, Jesus the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit. He is One, in three parts. Like a marriage, two people become one, except in spirit. It's complicated but amazing.

I'm confused what your actual question is. If Christians say that they gospels were inspired by Christ when they don't agree, then I guess that's their own problem. It's almost irrelevant. Maybe they do because they haven't really studied into it and don't want to, or maybe they just ... don't care, or or or.. there's many reasons why.

People are scholars on the Bible. It's a complicated thing but I just take God's word for it and rarely question Him because I try not to be a control freak. I know how tiny I am in the midst of the entire universe yet he still pays attention to me and helps me in problems and lights my path. God is not trying to mislead you.
 
1) OT and NT do not agree - reason: OT is Law and NT is grace - they do not mix just as vinegar and oil do not.

2) There is no 3-in-1 God - it is an error.

3) There is no hell - another error.

4) Jesus did not come to write books - so there is nothing "According to Christ"!

5) I read, write and speak Hebrew, and I have contacts with many Hebrew scholars, very often to realize that they do not have answers.

6) NT was not written in Hebrew, barring the Gospel of Matthew, Hebrews and Revelation.

7) I am not a pastor or reverend.

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The fact there are discrepancies makes the Gospels more authentic. The discrepancies are very small and melt away the more the Gospels are studied. Each writer had a different audience. recorded things that were important to them. Nobody witnesses an even the same way.
 
inspiration has been "re-translated" as "god-breathed". but the conclusion of scriptures being God breathed does not fit the entire spectrum of the "word of God".
now, "inspiration" is NOT God breathed because of this simple fact you allude to.

there are discrepancies.in the gospels because of the infirmities and failings of the flesh and mind. Add to this a cup of "confusion" from satan and everything can be found to be not only contradictory, but also fallacious. "rumors" can be part of the different readings of the gospels too.

the difference is that "inspiration" doesnt mean absolute Truth or absolute Understanding
also let it be understood there many "things" that influence the translations of Words, and not all of them are same in agreement.

the HOLY Bible in my opinion, is NOT perfectly "preserved" however, the basic communication is NOT corrupted.
the testimony of Jesus dieing and being resurrected is almost absolutely correct. people still disagree on particulars and definitions but Jesus did live and died and was resurrected.

anyone who has been "touched" by angels or Jesus personally Know that the Truth is out there, but anyone who watches X-files Know there are also Lies that pretend to be truth.

i am inspired by the bible and so are Many others, I have the witness of Jesus in my testimony, so i conclude everything on the side of revelation and prophecy to be MORE true than , lets say a pastor getting at the pulpit and preaching nothing but HIS churches' "tradition". tradition can be inspiring, but the fullness of pure revelation is a 100 fold More inspirational.

can you get what i mean by these anecdotal phrases?
 
Even after reading all this incoherent nonsense, Christians would probably still have the audacity to ask me why i'm an atheist.
 
Since when did saying something agreeable become a requirement for a christian?
 
The Christian scriptures where written between 2000 years before Christ to about 200 years after.... that's all. Modern science came to be around the Mid-16th to Mid-17th centuries with Galileo and Sir Isaac Newton to Albert Einstein to what we know as modern science today is ONLY in that period.

How in the world!! could there be any science in scripture? There can not be. Just the two historical periods are separated by so much. The scriptures are not teaching science, Its very hard for me to except not just a lateral interpretation of scripture but a fundamentalist approach to religious belief. Its kind of a plague; the bible presents its self as science and it simply is not.

And just as a side-note

The Gospel writers never met Jesus....that's right!! Not even St.Paul, No one who wrote about Jesus ever met him, So Christians can't say that the gospels are proof enough for the existence of Jesus Christ

We can all agree that the New Testament was written after the Old Testament. All that means is that the people who read the Old Testament made the prophesies FIT when they wrote the New Testament; its as simple as that. Please don't take my word for it.....just look it up for yourself; you'll see.
 
The Old Testament was before Jesus died on a cross for our sins. ALL sins are forgiveable now because of what he did. Everything in the Old Testament, such as being unclean and needing to take a shower and being unclean until evening, was before Jesus took upon himself all sin and died the death that would wash us clean. Now, we don't have to do any 'works' to 'earn our spot in heaven' or earn God's love because He did it by himself, which is awesome..

The Three in One ordeal.. no where in the Bible does it actually say "Trinity" but it does leave the idea that there is a trinity, a.k.a. God the Father, Jesus the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit. He is One, in three parts. Like a marriage, two people become one, except in spirit. It's complicated but amazing.

I'm confused what your actual question is. If Christians say that they gospels were inspired by Christ when they don't agree, then I guess that's their own problem. It's almost irrelevant. Maybe they do because they haven't really studied into it and don't want to, or maybe they just ... don't care, or or or.. there's many reasons why.

People are scholars on the Bible. It's a complicated thing but I just take God's word for it and rarely question Him because I try not to be a control freak. I know how tiny I am in the midst of the entire universe yet he still pays attention to me and helps me in problems and lights my path. God is not trying to mislead you.
 
The Old Testament was before Jesus died on a cross for our sins. ALL sins are forgiveable now because of what he did. Everything in the Old Testament, such as being unclean and needing to take a shower and being unclean until evening, was before Jesus took upon himself all sin and died the death that would wash us clean. Now, we don't have to do any 'works' to 'earn our spot in heaven' or earn God's love because He did it by himself, which is awesome..

The Three in One ordeal.. no where in the Bible does it actually say "Trinity" but it does leave the idea that there is a trinity, a.k.a. God the Father, Jesus the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit. He is One, in three parts. Like a marriage, two people become one, except in spirit. It's complicated but amazing.

I'm confused what your actual question is. If Christians say that they gospels were inspired by Christ when they don't agree, then I guess that's their own problem. It's almost irrelevant. Maybe they do because they haven't really studied into it and don't want to, or maybe they just ... don't care, or or or.. there's many reasons why.

People are scholars on the Bible. It's a complicated thing but I just take God's word for it and rarely question Him because I try not to be a control freak. I know how tiny I am in the midst of the entire universe yet he still pays attention to me and helps me in problems and lights my path. God is not trying to mislead you.
 
Because the events of his life inspired them to write it. What about the word inspired throws everyone into a tailspin?
Ask any police officer how different witnesses of the same event always have different angles on the same story. Each witness is telling the story but from their perspective. This is why police prefer to have more than one witness because they will get a fuller account of the events. and it gives the stories strength when they collaborate on aspects of their stories.
In turn, this is one of several reasons why historical NT scholars universally agree that the gospels are to be deemed as credible historical documents. Ancient document scholars call this "multiple attestation".

Look at this guy above me. He thinks that theism is the belief in Jesus Christ and Christianity. Dude! The belief in theism is the belief in a divine deity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hindus, Muslims, Buddhist, Christians, Rastafarians, Judaist, and humdreds of others believe in God. Theism is not exclusive to Christianity. Please tell me your like 12 or 13 years old and you just didnt know any better.
 
I think you just need to take more time to study the Word. The Bible is a very long and rich book and is not easy to understand in one sitting. You raise some good questions but I think they are fairly easy to answer.

1. God is One -- You claim that going by the Old Testament and Hebrew, God only exists in one being. This is just not true. From the book of Genesis, we have God saying in Hebrew "let us make man in our image.." indicating more than on personage as the subject. Additionally, all throughout the Old Testament there are appearances of "The Angel of The Lord." These are what Bible scholars call a "Christophony" or an appearance of the pre-incarnate Christ. The interesting thing about this is that while we can debate in English who the "Angel of The Lord" is, in Hebrew there is no debate. The word for God in Hebrew is "Yahweh." The word for "The Angel of The Lord" in Hebrew is "Yahweh." So for the ancient Hebrews, there was certainly "more than one God" and this was The Word, also known as Jesus Christ.

2. As for saying the Bible disagrees, you have not shown in. We know that the Bible is indeed divine:

2 Timothy 3: 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

All Scripture is divinely inspired. Jesus told the Disciples that the Holy Spirit would bring them into rememberance when they were going to write the Gospels so for them the Holy Spirit authored through them. But again, God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all one. So there's no contradiction or "blasphemy" in saying the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible.
 
The Christian scriptures where written between 2000 years before Christ to about 200 years after.... that's all. Modern science came to be around the Mid-16th to Mid-17th centuries with Galileo and Sir Isaac Newton to Albert Einstein to what we know as modern science today is ONLY in that period.

How in the world!! could there be any science in scripture? There can not be. Just the two historical periods are separated by so much. The scriptures are not teaching science, Its very hard for me to except not just a lateral interpretation of scripture but a fundamentalist approach to religious belief. Its kind of a plague; the bible presents its self as science and it simply is not.

And just as a side-note

The Gospel writers never met Jesus....that's right!! Not even St.Paul, No one who wrote about Jesus ever met him, So Christians can't say that the gospels are proof enough for the existence of Jesus Christ

We can all agree that the New Testament was written after the Old Testament. All that means is that the people who read the Old Testament made the prophesies FIT when they wrote the New Testament; its as simple as that. Please don't take my word for it.....just look it up for yourself; you'll see.
 
The books followed different religious traditions and were never meant to be brought together in a single book. This is obviously attested to by the 4 different kinds of Jesus presented in the four Gospels.

Matthew presents Jesus, in Plato's terminology, as a Guardian (SJ - Personality style according to Meyers / Briggs.) - concerned with the fulfillment of the law and the teaching of correct doctrine.

Mark presents Jesus in the terminology of the Artisan (SP) - action oriented and acting immediately, impulsively and influentially, proving himself to truly be the Son of God to Jew and Gentile.

Luke presents Jesus in a characteristically Rationale (NT) fashion - writing a thoroughly researched and accurate account of the truth of who Jesus is and what Jesus has done.

John presents Jesus in the fundamentally caring Idealist fashion (NF) - focusing on the divine identity of Jesus as the Word made flesh and demonstrating that interpersonal connectedness of Jesus to many in the conversations recorded in this gospel.

The fundamental differences of Jesus are probably due to the personality of the unknown authors and the religious traditions of the different Christian religions from which they came.

In short, If an SP, NT, NF or SJ were to describe the very same event, the personality of the writer would cause them all to focus on differing aspects of the event as well as attribute their own style of thinking and reasoning into the event. When asked for example, why did Jesus do 'X" the SP would give a responsive answer, the NT a rational answer, the NF a nurturing answer, and the SJ a value laden answer.

Why to the facts differ? Everything from the day of execution to the ministry, to the actual words spoken at the time of his death; something that no one who believed in the divinity of Jesus would ever forget.

No one was there, no one knew Jesus personally, there is no contemporary evidence of his existence. These stories are made up for the most part. Like the Friday night movie of the week, the books of the bible may be based on an actual event, but there in the similarity stops. The names of the characters may have even been changed to protect the innocent. The books were written in different parts of the world, in different times, and in different cultures over a 300 year period of time. Then they were collected and shoved together. It makes perfect sense that they do not agree.
 
This is one of favorite scripture readings, maybe it will help.

Proverbs 21:2
Everyway of man is right in his own eyes but the lord ponders the heart.

True the bible doesn't all line up, but Jesus knew what was up and said to love one another as yourself, as God has loved you.

A loving heart cannot be wrong, I like things simple so I follow that, just my philoshophy.
 
All scripture is inspired by God beneficial for teaching and setting all matters straight. Christians, hence, those that follow Christ' and his Father's beliefs, and standards know that all scripture is truthful and beneficial.
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The Living Soul

You are a living soul; I am a living soul.

“God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” The first man, Adam, was a soul; he became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7)

The Bible speaks of souls doing work. (Leviticus 23:30) The soul is spoken of as being impatient, irritated, sleepless, fearful, and depressed. (Judges 16:16; Job 19:2; Psalm 119:28; Acts 2:43; 1 Thessalonians 5:14) Referring to a soul as a person, Romans 13:1 states: “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities.” And at 1 Peter 3:20, says: “In Noah’s days, . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.” Nothing in these scriptures indicates that the soul is some immaterial entity that lives on after death.

Animals and plants? Are they souls? Consider how the Bible describes the creation of animals. “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls,” God commanded. On the next creative day, God said: “Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind.” (Genesis 1:20, 24) Therefore, all living creatures—human or animal—are souls. Scripturally, plants are not referred to as souls.
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2 Timothy 3: 16 - 17:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
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