Why do Christians think that atheist have nothing better to do but to...

CandyAppleRed

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...plot to take "Christ out of Christmas"? Furthermore, why do they assume that not celebrating Christmas for religious reasons is an attack on them?
 

MissMouse

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You're asking this HERE, in R&S, where about half the regulars have nothing better to do than bash Christians? Seriously?

To "think that atheist have nothing better to do but to plot to take 'Christ out of Christmas'" is not much of a leap.
 

reflexologist

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The Christmas season is a lonely time of year for those who believe in nothing. Most, however, manage to get by without having to lash out at believers. But not the Freedom from Religion Foundation. In 2008, this group took its campaign to Olympia, Washington, and this past year, the religion haters took their show on the road to Springfield, Illinois. Here is what their sign said:

There are no gods / No devils / no angels / No heaven or hell. / There is only our natural world. / Religion is but / Myth and superstition / That hardens hearts / And enslaves minds.

By contrast the American Humanist Association’s campaign was not anti-religion; it was simply pro-atheism. Nonetheless, its timing was clearly designed to compete with Christmas. It said, “No God…No Problem!”

It is not clear how many believers, if any, would be persuaded to change their minds and start to believe in nothing. It seems more likely that these anti-Christmas campaigns were directed at fellow atheists: they functioned as a collective psychological massage.

We suggested that they stop at the nearest saloon for a few pints—it’s cheaper and promises to be the best feel-good exercise imaginable. But here’s the hitch: it wouldn’t offend anyone.
http://www.catholicleague.org/catalyst.php?year=2010&month=January-February&read=2720

This poster was found at atheism.about.com. It leaves no doubt as to the motivation of many atheists, and how they want to remove religion from Christmas.
http://www.catholicleague.org/catalyst.php?year=2006&month=December&read=2170

A Cincinnati attorney is suing the United States government because Christmas is recognized as a legal holiday. Richard Ganulin filed suit yesterday in U.S. District Court arguing that it is unconstitutional for Congress to proclaim Christmas as a national holiday. In his lawsuit, Ganulin said that because he does not celebrate Christmas or the birth of "Jesus Christ" (his quotes), he is "consequently damaged" by enforcement of the law.

Catholic League president William Donohue aired his views in today’s edition of the Cincinnati Enquirer and now offers the following additional remarks:

"Ganulin doesn’t have a leg to stand on. In 1984, in Lynch v. Donnelly, the U.S. Supreme Court said that the ‘Christmas holiday in our national culture contains both secular and sectarian elements.’ Five years later, in Allegheny County v. Greater Pittsburgh ACLU, the high court declared that both Christmas and Hanukkah ‘are part of the same winter holiday season, which has attained a secular status in our society.’

"In short, while the Supreme Court knows that the origin of Christmas is religious, it also acknowledges that it has acquired a secular meaning. And that settles the issue: by having a secular as well as a religious purpose, the celebration of Christmas is in accordance with the strictures laid down by the Supreme Court in Lemon v. Kurtzman (1971).

"But beyond the legalisms lies the real issue—the determination of secular zealots to scrub our society clean of all religious influence. This represents not only a war against our heritage, it represents an authoritarian impulse to restructure our culture according to the dictates of devout atheists. In the end, what bothers these people is that those who believe in Christ have Christmas to celebrate while those like themselves have, by definition, nothing to celebrate. That they are ‘consequently damaged’ as a result of their own doing is a mystery only to them."

http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=116
 

Rosie

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Im gonna be real nast now, atheist's wants christ in christmas so they have an ascuse to celebrate and have gifts exchanged ( It may not be christs actual birthday but its the day to celebrate it).
Other of different religions may not because they dont believe in christ or our GOD e.g Some Jews I know dont celebrate christmas because they believe they are still waiting for the resurection etc.) some may or may not celebrate christmas.
 

GrilledCheesus

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Because Christians are convinced that everyone is out to get them, because 99% of the people who aren't Christians hate them. (The other 1% is my allotted amount of people who are in a coma.)
 

rexy1

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It's not really the Athiests that want Christ out of Christmas. It's mostly Pagans, seeing as how it was a Pagan Holiday first (as are most the Holidays we celebrate). I don't think most Athiests have a problem with Christ being in Christmas since now it is regarded as a celebration of his birth (which is believable by anyone, Jesus did exist, and he was born, and we do celebrate it). Only the petty ones who really have no idea what they're saying really care at all. Just trying to prove themselves. Maybe they don't want to celebrate it because they don't believe there's much to celebrate, they don't celebrate every other dead persons birthday, after all. Athiests and Pagans aside, the real issue is with the Jewish because they celebrate Hannukah. All the controversy has guided us towards saying Happy Holidays instead, which apparently offends everybody.

In my opinion we could just settle with telling our Jewish friends Happy Hannukah and they tell us Merry Christmas. If you have Athiest friends who don't want to hear it, don't say it. Holiday greetings shouldn't be so impersonal anyways, so have a care to know who you're talking to before you open your mouth.
 
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