Abortion is Wrong
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ROFLfsdfFSDFA
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Yup, that's ol' dirty breeches
Dreamer4ever
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But you were quoting Crowley, not LaVey.
artyfartykez
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Let's call Jesus "Christ the Vandal" for his temple antics
tanglefoot
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Of course, because you need contrast. For example you draw a magnificent drawing of a landscape using white charcoal on white paper. The whites are exactly the same. Not much of a picture is it? Without contrast there is nothing there to be seen.
The same with any emotion. Love - hate, happy - sad, angry - content. It's like 2 sides of the same coin.
You can't have one without the other.
The same with any emotion. Love - hate, happy - sad, angry - content. It's like 2 sides of the same coin.
You can't have one without the other.
melywiththecherryontop
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Dont start with me. I hold a university degree with a major inhistory. You dont wanna start with me on this. You'll lose.
sounds like you were raised a bit differently than Iwas. There was quite a bit of violence in my home.
I dont wanna be prayed for. Im happy in my beliefs. Im agnostic. Im happy. I dont need your prayers.
bodily autonomy. Same reason spanking shouldnt be allowed, rape, isnt allowed, murder, you name it. Without bodily rights of your person and your things, other rights are meaningless. and the z/e/f goes into the woman, not vise versa. Besides, even if you invited someone in, you can still get rid of them. reasonable force, but there are lots of cases where you are allowed to kill to protect yourself property, family members, etc no matter how the other person got there. And I dont mind calling a fetus a person. I cant take use another person's body either without permission. So the unborn does have the exact same rights as born peoples.
Pregnancy is a major life changing event specially for women, not a mere inconvinience and I despise it with a purple passion when pro lifers call it a mere inconvinience like the electricity went out on your house!
and all pro lifers have been born too. What is reagan's point?
Right. Screw us. I get it. We all did something to cause it. I heard of some fire down in the States somewhere, and 2 adults died. The idiot reporter was on the news and what she said was "at least no kids died" WHAT??? so we can all go die in a fire. Got it.
sounds like you were raised a bit differently than Iwas. There was quite a bit of violence in my home.
I dont wanna be prayed for. Im happy in my beliefs. Im agnostic. Im happy. I dont need your prayers.
bodily autonomy. Same reason spanking shouldnt be allowed, rape, isnt allowed, murder, you name it. Without bodily rights of your person and your things, other rights are meaningless. and the z/e/f goes into the woman, not vise versa. Besides, even if you invited someone in, you can still get rid of them. reasonable force, but there are lots of cases where you are allowed to kill to protect yourself property, family members, etc no matter how the other person got there. And I dont mind calling a fetus a person. I cant take use another person's body either without permission. So the unborn does have the exact same rights as born peoples.
Pregnancy is a major life changing event specially for women, not a mere inconvinience and I despise it with a purple passion when pro lifers call it a mere inconvinience like the electricity went out on your house!
and all pro lifers have been born too. What is reagan's point?
Right. Screw us. I get it. We all did something to cause it. I heard of some fire down in the States somewhere, and 2 adults died. The idiot reporter was on the news and what she said was "at least no kids died" WHAT??? so we can all go die in a fire. Got it.
nines_rodriguez
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Did I ever say once that the man was right in what he did though? I really don't recall that. You want me to say he was wrong? No problem... he was wrong. The difference between me and many people in here and in the world in general is that I don't have an issue admitting that i'm wrong. Being wrong is part of learning no?
What I said was that he might have had the mentality of "the hundred that died, so that the thousand may live". Our government has had this thought all through history. Sometimes they were more right and sometimes more wrong. I say more because in many things you do, or comments you speak, you are often going to be a little wrong or a little right.
You were a soldier.. you have seen and done things i'm sure that still haunt you, maybe you feel guilty about, maybe you feel proud of. I'm in absolutely NO position to say you did this so you were wrong. Only you could answer that for yourself. However, you were a soldier and as much as you and I may disagree I very much respect what you have done because it is people such as yourself who allow both sides to speak about what they believe. If no such people existed... well... I guess we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese by now perhaps.
What I said was that he might have had the mentality of "the hundred that died, so that the thousand may live". Our government has had this thought all through history. Sometimes they were more right and sometimes more wrong. I say more because in many things you do, or comments you speak, you are often going to be a little wrong or a little right.
You were a soldier.. you have seen and done things i'm sure that still haunt you, maybe you feel guilty about, maybe you feel proud of. I'm in absolutely NO position to say you did this so you were wrong. Only you could answer that for yourself. However, you were a soldier and as much as you and I may disagree I very much respect what you have done because it is people such as yourself who allow both sides to speak about what they believe. If no such people existed... well... I guess we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese by now perhaps.
Capodastaro
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Please do something that is actually useful, mate. It wont change anything. Im happy with who I am.
I have a question. What does "I'll pray for you" actually mean? Like does it mean just mentioning someone is passing in a kind of a "please look after this lovely person" kind of way?
If so, then that's a nice thing to do. But if its meant in a "I'll pray for your salvation/conversion" then that's condescending and not so nice.
If so, then that's a nice thing to do. But if its meant in a "I'll pray for your salvation/conversion" then that's condescending and not so nice.
ellielovesjoey
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I'll get back to your points in a bit SiB.
I am not all familiar with it, but I suspect it might be a tad academically flawed.
If lines are drawn in an offtopic war, and my choices are to side with the Wheel Chair Maniac from Manchester, all freshly scalpelled and salivating, or the Concussed KO King of Right Turns, I'm opting out of both cults and potentially siding with those super heroes in Seattle.
You definitely deserve recognition for acting with compassion and social responsibility.
Can you tell us a little bit about the process? How long the entire process took, from start to finish? Do you think there was anything about the process that would discourage educated, suitable parents from participating in it? This wasn't a case of you adopting children from a single mother you were already dating, I assume. (Not that it would devalue your compassion, only that I assume it would expedite the process considerably.)
I am not all familiar with it, but I suspect it might be a tad academically flawed.
If lines are drawn in an offtopic war, and my choices are to side with the Wheel Chair Maniac from Manchester, all freshly scalpelled and salivating, or the Concussed KO King of Right Turns, I'm opting out of both cults and potentially siding with those super heroes in Seattle.
You definitely deserve recognition for acting with compassion and social responsibility.
Can you tell us a little bit about the process? How long the entire process took, from start to finish? Do you think there was anything about the process that would discourage educated, suitable parents from participating in it? This wasn't a case of you adopting children from a single mother you were already dating, I assume. (Not that it would devalue your compassion, only that I assume it would expedite the process considerably.)
CoolazHale
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Sounds like good religion in the making to me?
masterskier25
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Why would it be academically flawed? It's written by Jerry Coyne who knows a thing or two abut evolution I think.
The flaw is more than likely in the way I've explained it rather than the book itself.
Why is it flawed to say that a developing human foetus shows aspects and evidence of our evolutionary past in a way that might surprise people adamant that it is a "human" right from the start?
That was my point really. It's hard to determine different developing maofftopiclian embryos at certain stages (as M1k pointed out too).
The flaw is more than likely in the way I've explained it rather than the book itself.
Why is it flawed to say that a developing human foetus shows aspects and evidence of our evolutionary past in a way that might surprise people adamant that it is a "human" right from the start?
That was my point really. It's hard to determine different developing maofftopiclian embryos at certain stages (as M1k pointed out too).
mastergee444
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Although traits in common with modern groups of animals are revealed in our embryonic development, we do not go through distinct fish, amphibian, reptile and maofftopicl stages, which is what you initially stated and what John has an issue with I suspect. This view is a restatement of the idea that ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, expressed and (fraudulently) evidenced by Ernst Haeckel.