Atheists: Here's a few fulfilled prophecies of the Bible I think you should look at.?

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Just read these and if you can discredit them, congrats to you, even though I highly doubt you can.

First example of a fulfilled prophecy:

The City of Tyre.
In the Bible, Ezekiel was a prophet. In the Bible he predicted the destruction of Tyre thousands of years before it happened, being bold enough to say every bit of Tyre would be swept into the sea. Alexander the Great, which everyone agrees is real, right? was conquering Old Tyre. As he did so, he realized his navy couldn't get him to New Tyre to conquer it. So he took the remains of Old Tyre, every stone, piece of lumber, scrap, anything and dumped it into the sea. He made a bridge and conquered New Tyre.
If you don't take my word for it, read here about the bridge being made of "stones and wood": http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070515-alexander-great_2.html

Another prophecy is the Immaculate Conception, or Virgin Conception.
Jesus' birth was predicted in detail, in the 8th century BC. Of course many people know he was born, even other religions believe so.
Here are biblical quotes as proof (it shows both liberal and conservative views. For the sake of my argument, I'm referring to the Conservative views, which in my opinion are much less foggy): http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_proi.htm

The Nation of Israel rising again.
Israel and the land around it has been in controversy and dispute for thousands of years. In the Bible many references are made to Israelites being enslaved and Israel itself being taken over. In 1948, Israel regained independence, as foretold in Ezekiel 37:11-13 and reads: "Then I will bring you back to the land of Israel. When this happens, O my people, you will know that I am the Lord."

Jesus will be hated for no reason (Psalm 69:4). Fulfillment: John 15:25
Above are my references for this prophecy. If you met a random man on the street that offered you a hundred dollars, would you throw stones at him? I didn't think so. The prophecy was made to say that when Jesus began his ministry, he would be hated without cause. WHY? If you read the verse Psalm 69:4, it says that Jesus will be "forced to restore what he did not steal." That obviously that came true. The guy was nailed to a cross.

My last one will be that the Crucifixion was foretold.
In Psalms (which for you less informed, was written well before the time of Jesus) the Crucifixion of Jesus was written in detail. Read it in Psalms 22 all of the chapter.

There are many many more I could put down, but here are a few major ones I thought you would like. If there is anything that you would like me to clarify, I will try my best. Realize I haven't gotten to understand every element of the Bible (I'm 13). If these are true, how can you take the position that the Bible is filled with falsehoods and illogical references?
The thing with Ezekiel was that he was right when he said the city was permenantly destroyed. The old city which existed then was destroyed completely. (everything being swept into the sea) Realistically, I could build a city in my backyard and call it Tyre and contradict the Bible. BUT, what was being said was that the city would be completely destroyed. Aside of Isaiah, no reference was made to it being rebuilt. I believe that argument made sense.

Even though I haven't been able to find any reference of the Immaculate Conception outside of the Bible, apparently Israel was just recently given its independence back google it, the Cruxifiction has been refered to many first century historians. Go to wikipedia and look under "Cruxifixion of Jesus". Also, Jesus being hated unjustly was the reason for his Cruxifiction, which was proved earlier. Hope those references are better for you.
 
Ok kid we don't give a damn about the bible or its made up prophecies nor do we care about your Jesus of god.
 
I can make a prediction. Some in the US company will go under in the next twenty years. There. I'll bet you anything that'll happen :)
 
"I think you should look at"
I have a mind of my own... cool, huh?

"There are many many more I could put down"
All written after teh event... hard for them to go wrong, yeah?

"If these are true, how can you take the position that the Bible is filled with falsehoods and illogical references?"
Cos it's based in superstitious nonsense, aka büllshït.

AronRa: Gods and magic are the most simplistic excuses ignorant primitives have ever imagined to explain anything.
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/05/the_big_bang_1.html
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So an unproven religious text that I don't believe in compliments itself...

Am I supposed to drop down on my knees now?

Please. By this logic, every other religious text is also the "word of god" and proven.
 
All the "prophecies" concerning jesus that you cite in the Jewish Tanach are non-existent. Psalms 22 has nothing to do with Jesus.

Psalms 69 does not say "Jesus will be forced to restore what he did not steal." Nothing in Psalms ANYWHERE has anything to do with Jesus.

No, there is no such thing as a virgin birth for the Messiah in Judaism, and there is NO passage or verse in the Jewish Torah/Tanach that says the Messiah will be born of a virgin. Christianity got the concept from Paganism, not from Jewish scriptures.

Ezekiel 37 has not been fulfilled. ALL of the Jews are not back in Israel, and MOST of the Jews in the West are either Secular (not religious at all) or Reform (and not following Torah Judaism). So no, they do NOT know that "I am the Lord".


I do not take the position that the Bible is full of falsehoods and illogical references. Just the Christian bible, including both its new and old testaments. The old testament in the Christian bible has over THREE THOUSAND changes made in words, verses, and translations from what it is in the Jewish Torah. All in an attempt to back engineer Jesus into it, where there is nothing of the kind.

In other words, it's false.
 
Oh my goodness!

But hold the phone there Christian soldier. There is / are problems here:

Ezekiel also prophesied that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre, which would never again be rebuilt (26:7-14)

-- but Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Tyre failed to take the city, and Tyre still exists today.

A curious thing about this prophecy against Tyre is that Isaiah also predicted that Tyre would be destroyed, but, whereas Ezekiel predicted that Tyre would be permanently destroyed and "nevermore have any being," Isaiah prophesied that it would be made desolate only for a period of 70 years.

How about this: I predict somebody will attack somebody else, and they may win or not - or just a little.

See, it's easy to play God. After all the illiterate sheep jockeys that lived thousands of years ago made up one that you still think is real.

And, you should be aware that is no evidence for the crucifixion - neither in contemporary historic records or from archaeological investigation.

The original Gospel of Mark includes no mention of anyone seeing a resurrected Jesus. Biblical scholars agree that is was added later to match the other Gospels - which all plagiarized Mark. But, since Mark originally made no mention of those things, the others must be fake also.
 
Plenty of "fulfilled prophecies" in the Qu'ran. Are you a muslim too?
 
Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

I guess Jesus missed this one.
 
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