Christians: do you really think morals started with your religion?

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wildspiderman

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You guys have a warped sense of morals. You do good stuff to get into heaven or cuz you think jesus told you too. But sorry morals weren't invented by you. If it wasn't ingrained into humans not to kill steal cheat etc then we wouldn't have made it past the stone age
 
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fireball

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you are not our judge....grow up soon...IT STARTED IN THE GARDEN AND WITH ABRAHAM getting the commands...
we never said that..we invented them...calm down
 
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LittleFaithe

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Who got your panties in a bunch? Don't generalize an entire religion or society. That's like saying all Germans hate the Jews, or all Muslims are terrorists. We don't think we 'created' morals, it's an inner judgement everyone has. Despite your beliefs actually, we don't do good things to get into heaven, because that would be a selfish wrong in it's self. We do good things because that's what we feel is right and that's what we feel like we should do and were most comfortable with.
And I love how people are going on here and disliking the answers when Christians say something (mainly disagreeing with what was said) but when an Atheist says something, or other religion, it gets liked. Get over your selves, you're not all high and mighty because you think you're right and that all Christians are idiots.
 
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koryosiveness

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oh please dont judge all of us..
i too am embarrassed by others in my religion

i dont do good things because i want to go to heaven, im not sure even if hell and heaven exists, but i do it because i like to be a good person.

and i dont think that, im not sure where morals were started but it DEFINITELY wasnt with us, some Christians are still learning. .
 
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ricky

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We do. And we don't do good to get into heaven we do good because we are saved not to be saved. Since our old selves died in Him our new selves resurrected in Him because we believed in Him, that is we put our faith and trust in Him and since we resurrected in Him how can we persist in evil? We do evil cause we choose to, not because we were born evil, then it would be our nature and God would be the author of evil, rather we were born with the disease and we let ourselves succumb to it, it is our fault and ours alone, none can ave themselves by their own goodness, as good has no evil, however we do.
 
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ShinigamitFACt

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I don't know why people think the Roman Empire or Egyptian civilization was more moral than the Dark Ages. Romans screwed everyone everywhere all the time, threw their unwanted newborns into the town dump, and Egyptians didn't think twice about making non-Egyptians into slaves. The Babylonians thought it was great to leave you in a vat of your own excrement and watch you get eaten alive by maggots.

like wtf you guys?

there was no Geneva convention on the rules of war. They came in, raped you, cut off your head, raped you again and stole everything you owned.

they raped your sheep too.

they were barbarians and revelled in the power of life and death that they held over everyone.

It is more true to say that as population levels reached a certain peak, morals went down the tubes and civilizations fell. Decay and immorality go hand in hand. The Dark Ages were caused by hordes who pillaged and burned because Christians were so trusting that they didn't defend themselves against them...and whatever knowledge they gained during that time was wiped out by barbarians.

Are they teaching a different history in school now?
 
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Pheiry

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They think so, but that's obviously not true. The Egyptian, Greek, and Roman empires prospered without Christianity, but once Christianity was invented we were plunged into the dark ages!
 
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Kayla

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I'm not perfect. I've gotten into fist fights (people don't have the right to treat others like dirt). All you can do is try.
 
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EeT

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Sorry your morals are different from everyone Else's morals because each of us apply it differently hence the notion of situational ethics. What the bible has done has standardized morals... Through the use of the laws of mosheh (moses) not counting the sacrificial laws which was a way of providing for the priesthood. You say if it wasn't ingrained we would still be in the stone age. I submit to you that killing stealing and cheating go on daily making your argument worthless and that because of your attitude toward morals We are on the verge of returning to that so called stone age very soon
REAL SIMPLE; YOU CAN'T HAVE PEACE WITHOUT THE LAWS OF PEACE...
 
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Kayla

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I'm not perfect. I've gotten into fist fights (people don't have the right to treat others like dirt). All you can do is try.
 
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scootingblenny

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Haha, you christians are nuts and kinda terrifying. Yeah, morals, as well as almost every emotion we feel, are an evolutionary adaptation. Such behavior is common in societal animals like humans, chimps, dolphins, elephants, dogs/wolves, etc.

Without a sense of morality on an individual level, any society would collapse. Therefore, a sense of morality was favored by natural selection for us. It came long before we were even Homosapiens and has nothing to do with religion, an entirely separate, though arguably innate, human construct.
 
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fireball

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you are not our judge....grow up soon...IT STARTED IN THE GARDEN AND WITH ABRAHAM getting the commands...
we never said that..we invented them...calm down
 
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fireball

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you are not our judge....grow up soon...IT STARTED IN THE GARDEN AND WITH ABRAHAM getting the commands...
we never said that..we invented them...calm down
 
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Pamela

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you're absolutely right!
morals- the whole idea of morality was not invented by us!

Christian claims are based on God-
who He is, what He's done and what He has to say

and you're right again-
mankind's morals were 'ingrained' in us-
not by evolution or chance
but by God when He created us in His image

We didn't start anything- God did:)
and we don't say anything- God does:)
an effective, fruitful, obedient Christian always points to God

just think- you are fashioned after the creator of the universe!
that's worth a ponder at least
maybe even some investigation......

why wouldn't you want to get to know someone
who loves you enough to die for you?
 
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