Does this verse mean that God chose His elect to be saved in Christ, even before...

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...they existed? According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 1:4
@ Nochance,
Really? How can you say that? Even a child could read this and understand what it says. Many don't like what it says, but they understand it.
 
Saint Paul opens this letter, not just with a generic prayer thanking God, but praising God eloquently. And I think what gave Saint Paul the strength to endure these extreme sufferings he went through was the knowledge that is expressed in one line of this opening prayer. “God chose us in him before the world began to be holy and blameless in his sight.”

Saint Paul isn’t just spouting this off because it seems like a real romantic, poetic, thing to say. St. Paul believed this to the very depths of his soul. That is what gave him the strength to endure the sufferings he did. Paul recognized that every Christian has been given a glorious vocation. God chose us in him. We have been chosen. This is not arbitrary. This is not chance. God has chosen each one us to be Christian because God sees in us something unique and valuable we can contribute to his kingdom. And because we are chosen we are called to be holy and blameless in his sight, so w can be an example to the world.
 
On it does not mean each person is specifically choose by God..It means God knew he would have to send his Son Jesus to died for man sins. If man believe his son , obey the gospel . 1cor. 4;4, acts 4;12, col .2;14, heb. 9'16-17
 
We always existed and always will, but it does not say God "chose his elect to be saved in Christ", as Christ invites all to come and be saved and all to be Holy.
 
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