Even if theists are "delusional" doesnt religion at least keep them safe?

tExcuseMeMisst

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Being Christian definitely keeps people safe. Born Again Christians are much less likely to abuse alcohol, tobacco, illegal drugs or even legal drugs. They are more likely to eat right and take supplements. They believe quite correctly that their body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and they are thus more motivated to take care of themselves. They are less likely to have a sexually transmitted disease or pass one on. They are less likely to gamble or abuse their kids. In fact they are much less likely to have any kind of bad habits that threaten their survival or the survival of their children.

They not what habits are wrong and unhealthy and are less likely to have them because they think the spirit of God is watching them or that such habits will cause permanent damage to their spirit. If we dont believe anyone is watching over us we are much more likely to harm others and ourselves and not think of our actions are how God might think of us.
PaulCyp - I put "delusional" in quotes meaning it is quoting from someplace else, it is not something i myself actually believe.

Derek - Im talking religion with its morals, in general. I just happened to add Christianity into the mix because i am a Christian but i do mean religion in general.
Objection - There is no justifying the wrongs these people did, but i am talking about the individual person. Indeed there are many religious groups that kill and perform many atrocities, however, i persons holy text says "Do not harm your body in any way for the spirit of god is in it" are they less likely to do so because their conscience is against it?

Also if their text says "Do not kill any human" will it at least slightly keep them from killing?
YES, we are all HUMAN. Not one of us is perfect. Im not saying any religious person is more morally upright than a non religious/atheist. We all sin but im saying that we strive not to.
Heres one of my sources for how religion keeps people healthy. I had a couple more but i forgot the links even the titles of the pages. Ill try to look for them.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/religionhealth.html#LbEV4dRd0IQ3
Heres one of my sources for how religion keeps people healthy. I had a couple more but i forgot the links even the titles of the pages. Ill try to look for them.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/religionhealth.html#LbEV4dRd0IQ3
 

jay

Active member
Safe to bash gays and stop abortions and try and brainwash children so they don't grow up understanding science?

Is that a good thing?

Like it or not, people deserve to know the truth so they can make up their own minds of how to live their lives. Brainwashing people is unacceptable and evil. Religious people live their lives in lies and never get to see reality as it actually is, and that's not fair to them.
 

Objection

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Wrong. Adherence to a false dogma just because it "feels good" is still wrong. Theism pollutes the intellectual movement, lacing it with BS.

Furthermore, religion has proven time and time again to be the cause of and justifier of irrational violence. Take for example Radical Islam, the Inquisition, the shooting of an abortion doctor, the bombing of an abortion clinic, the burning of books, the death of a twelve year old girl because her parents refused to send her to the hospital, but instead prayed for her.

And not to mention, intellectual dishonesty on your part.

@frediwhite@verizon: Furthermore, the OP's argument is also an admittance that christianity is false.
 

TheDoctor

Member
"They are more likely to eat right and take supplements." Haven't seen too many of the born again crowd here in southwest Missouri, have you.

"They are less likely to gamble." Haven't been to the casinos in northeast Oklahoma, either. I know some of these people who head to the casinos right across the state line every Saturday. And, yes, they are the born again Christians.
 

PaulCyp

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Funny how those who haven't experienced something don't hesitate to call the billions who have experienced it "delusional". My idea of delusional would be insistence on the non-existence of something just because I haven't personally experienced it, even though billions of intelligent people do claim to have experienced it. I mean, if I'm sitting in my yard and someone goes by and says "hey did you see the dinosaur walking down main Street?", I might say "delusional". But after 200 people walk by and say the same thing, seems to me I might think, "hmmmm, maybe they have all seen something I haven't seen. Maybe I should take a look".
 
This may be the biggest load of manure I've ever read. I've seen with my own eyes the truth about Born Again Christians and I can tell you that they are no better or different than anyone else. What you don't seem to understand is that we're all HUMAN.
 
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