ok first of all, no att has the i-phone that's it. verizon blows it out of the water everywhere else. look at the blackberry storm, once you get used to the clicking its pretty good. the dare is good too if your more casual it's really easy to use and fairly small. If you want a phone that's not touch screen then get the env2 if you want a touch screen with button keys get the glyde. these are awsome choices. if you want a normal blackberry get the 8330. honestly i would kill to be on verizon but my sister doesn't get service in kansas so we have to be on att and I'm not into spending hundreds a year to get the i-phone.