Immigration debate

As holy said only the racists and the woefully ignorant hate the muslim communities. Can't think of any actual impact they've had either? We've had all the scare stories about sharia law and ending christmas but two minutes digging show them to be just that: scare stories.
 
How on earth do you read into my post that I hate Muslims, actually I have much more in common with them than you guy's do. In fact if, what some say is true, that 10% of Muslim population is radical, out of that 1 million Muslims you want to surround yourself with, 100,000 of them would rather cut your holy head off than look at you.

From Wiki:
"A 2009 survey of the attitudes of British Muslims found them to identify more strongly with the UK than the rest of the population, with a much higher regard for the country's institutions, though the vast majority of them have strongly conservative views on moral issues such as homosexuality (0% found it morally acceptable) and the death penalty (63% found it morally acceptable), both differing dramatically from those held by the rest of the British population.[8]"

I don't hate Muslims I have many Muslim friends, just because I refuse to bury my head in the sand and pretend that there is not a "Radical Muslim problem". It's not hate that makes me think that, it's their actions that do.
 
You need to define 'radical' and provide stats for that 10% claim. I think, realistically, the percentage of Muslims who represent a threat against the West (which is how I'd define radical) is a small fraction of 1%.

I don't see how those stats prove anything other than that the muslim faith prohibits homosexuality and approves of capital punishment - just like Christianity does, or rather, the brand of Christianity practiced in the US bible belt.
 
Yeah, the problem with that is that your lot (christian conservatives) hold roughly the same views. In my view, there's not a lot to choose between you.
 
Sorry I am not a Neo Con, I love gay people, and could care what colour someone is. I am worried about their culture and what it stands for. Or the decimation of my country.

I'm not a right wing christian either. I happen to believe religion is the cause of most of the hate in the world. I'm a Spiritualist. I believe in dead people
 
Funny you don't think Sharia law has made any kind of impact? That it is only scare?
So you would support someone who supports Sharia law? I'm reminded lately of the hospital that is humanely dropping acid into a womans eye.

I myself could care less about Xmas, really the actual nomenclature of using that term has disappeared from many cultures, so it's something we're used to now but it was no scare it happened.
I didn't know so much life happened by the age of 18.
 
Well I guess it depends on how you define it, opinions vary.






Yes, But they don't KILL YOU for not following their beliefs!
 
"Here I will judge you too. Left wing fanatic, must be a weed smoking tree hugging NDP."




I would marry you, you sexy beast!
 
I'd tell you what that makes you, but it might get me banned.
 
So who is it that's hiring all these immigrants just to pay them less? If the immigrant is in the country legally then the national minimum wage still applies?

For the record. Islam was in Europe centuries ago. Normally it's beaten back to the middle east when there's a crusaded on.
 
Osu,


there is not enough work todo for everyone... and that's fine with me!
The trouble is not the jobs, it is the resources: Human's purpose never was to "earn a living" to pay the mortgage!



HA! ROFL!
Well played - I think you win the thread with that one!


Osu!
 
Almost all muslims don't.
Almost all conservative christians don't.
Explain the difference.

You'd enjoy that much less than I would, I guarantee it
 
Evidence for that acid bit?

I don't support sharia law courts int he uk just because of the political and religious tension it would cause from people who are too moronic to do some f their own research rather than go along with the BS the Mail prints. There was a thing about sharia law in the uk a couple years ago now I think and we had the "oh my god their going to be stoning women for showing an ankle!" hysteria but anyone who bothered to actually read the proposal from source rather than in a right wing paper found out it would only have handled things like marriage law or something. I will admit I've forgotten the actual proposal's wording but I can assure you nothing in it was asking to allow sharia law for criminal matters and none of the sentences would have involved harm.


Couldn't care less. If you "could" care less then obviously you do care about it to some degree.


With respect, jog on with the age crap. Sick of people assuming because they've lived longer than someone that means they're an all knowing mage living on a mountain. A 40 year old whose only exposure to politics or religion has been watching FOX news does not have more authority than someone who's 20 that actually does research. If I want to know how pensions work I'll come to an old guy, if I want to know something about near anything else I'll go to someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I'm not even comparing me and you in that paragraph btw just crapping on this BS notion that age = intelligence
 
The phrase "sharia law" on it's own doesn't mean much. There are many different versions depending on the society it's implemented in. The version proposed for the UK was no more insidious that what the Jews currently have. Basically it was an arbitration service that required the consent of both parties, plaintiff and defendant, before it could intervene. Frankly i don't see what the big deal with that is.
 
Is this the acid story you're talking about? It's the only one I found that even comes close. And guess where it is. Iran. Guess what else. The hospital is not blinding the woman. The woman has been granted retribution on a man who poured acid on her face because she refused to marry him. The woman, according to The Guardian requested this retribution.

Now who are we to tell Iran what laws it can and cannot have? If Iran were telling use we shouldn't be locking up rapists we'd tell them where to stick their opinion.
 
Just so you know, Lefty!, I don't doubt your intelligence for a second. But do realize that *age* often equates to more experience (specifically LIFE experience) and although not always, more experience can lead to wisdom. Just for the record, wisdom≠intelligence.
 
I stand corrected, he was to receive the acid in the eye for splashing on her face. So the culture itself merits non equality nor humane punishment. I can't stand for a culture that would permit the activity to start with, imagine the idea of punishing someone for not marrying them.

So yes this is in Iran. So let it stay there then. If an immigrant supports such things as Sharia law, their place is not in my country.
Then if they want to act subhuman, they can be treated as such. Morals have nothing to do with where you live making them acceptable.
There is right and wrong. There is civilized behavior.
 
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