Israel Blockades Lebanon

Men are and we cause war because of this there will always be war aslong as men exist I think the human race is better off dead .
 
I called it 'ignoring' because you made no mention of the rockets. You simply said Israel could not claim self defense because they had killed 200 people over the issue of 2 kidnapped soldiers. Which is only part of the story. The other part is the (estimated) 1,400 rockets that have been fired on Israel since the 12th of this month.

If you're going to claim a neutral viewpoint at least attempt to present all the facts instead of avoiding facts of which you are plainly aware.

Is the fact that Hizbollah have 'only' managed to kill 20 or so of the people they are targeting supposed make the Israelis sit back and say "Ok then, you guys carry on, you're not doing much damage."?

"jewish government and their likes and supporters which clearly states that they want to eradicate the muslims and their supporters"

The Jewish government has "clearly" stated no such thing. They have said there will be a cease fire in Lebanon when the soldiers are returned and the Lebanese government manages to control the border.
 
And to think, the Madagascar Plan could have prevented all of this

DC, you are keen to tell us all about 'Arab/Muslim mentality' but could you please comment on what you believe "Isreali/Jewish" mentality to be? I'd be interested to see how things balance.

Seriously though, until Israel is brought to task, this cycle will go on ad infinitum.

As is painfully apparent in this thread, the media spin does seem to position everyone on sides.

As for


An Iraeli general practically said this word for word in a BBC interview last night. However, it was 'Hezbollah & their supporters'.
 
Yes..first things first. In the arab world as you put it lying is just that lying. It is no different here in the states. And the examples you gave can be found here in the states just as they may be found elsewhere in the world, unless my ears were lying to me about all those broken promises and such (business related). So you failed to prove your point, atleast with those examples of lying here vs. there.

Now if you come across any religious muslim and tell him a lie or lie around him, your going to have problems in the arab world. And your problems will be even greater if he has some type of authority. Now where do we in the states have such a thing? Yes I know there are some places here that people just won't tolerate such behavior, as for the whole group (and I mean religious people) nope.
I do agree that in a country the dominate religion will influence the masses in one way or another. But by no means does that religion dictate how people act overall. Example, I grow-up calling myself a christian because my family is christian. That never stopped me from doing dirt, just like in the arab world Islam nor christianity doesn't stop them from doing dirt. I think that is plan to see for a blind man.

Now we get to the fun stuff. "you refer to all Israelis as Jews" I'm never did that in that post. I stated those jews who are doing the killing, etc... Now how is that stating that all Israelis are jews? For your info, I've been to Hafia long before I became muslim, and I know that atleast back then that not "all" people in the occupied land a jew. Nor did I state that only jews are doing the killing. I stated that the jews are doing the majority of the killing which is a fact. Oh and they are the ones committing the majority of the terrorist acts. Where do I getoff by saying that? Well I don't, they say it (their government officals). Oh I'm sorrying you never listened to their government officals talk about such things as "crush the terrorist and their supporters", "crush the resistance" and so forth. What do you think they do with these attacks? Do you really think that they "only" go to the ones fighting in their homes and rape, kill, and wound them? If so grow-up and drink mellow-yellow dude. I've seen (in the late 90's) on their channel 2 news how the army burst through the doors of any family they choose hurting or killing who they may (and stating it is unfortunate, but we have a job to do). And instead of going out through the use to be door, they burst through the wall and invade the other apartment.
All this is done in an effort to crush the spirit of the people as a whole, not just the terrorist. But as a result, more of the people lean towards the terrorist, and some even become terrorist. Very few of these people from what I know fight in the way that Islam allows, now that is a shame.
 
I'm sorry I didn't follow your rules when commenting on this topic. I should at least mention the 1400 missiles from hizbollah. I should also make mention of the non hizbollah military target hit on purpose by the jewish military. My man we both could go on and on about both sides doing whatever, but the bottom line is that both sides are doing dirt. You call it defense, I call it offense. Everybody has the right to defend themselves their family and their property, everyone. So when some ppl fight of arab decent those of hebrew decent, don't give me this one is better than the other stuff. Look at who what when where and how. This will give you a better picture of what is going on. Both sides have committed great evil and both sides have done good. That still doesn't mean that we overlook the evil.
 
Sorry I didn't watch the bbc last night nor have in over a year. But that is a good point. Only thing is that I'm qouting what I heard the jewish pm and others in their government say over the last 10 years of me even paying attention to this conflict.

Still I point-out that your right on point. If you listen to "mainstream" media your view point will be much different than those of us who listen to other news sources. I only get cnn and cnbc, but I've only watched cnn's boardcast lately, and I only hear a onesided story. Truely there are two sides to a story. So I go over to democracy now to hear the otherside of the story. The truth is somewhere inbetween the two boardcast. And yes I do tend to lean more towards what democracy now boardcast than the cnn and other socalled "mainstream" media. Before I end this post, don't forget that they bring the otherside of the story to the table as well.
 
than why mention anything?

Israel is in the right to disarm Hezbollah reguardless of how many civilians their rockets killed. It was part of the UN agreement on Israel withdrawing from Souther Lebanon 6 years ago.

Yes hezbollah's rockets only killed 24 but hezbollah is looking to kill 24,000.
Yes Israel has killed more civilians because they are going after where hezbollah works and lives which are amoung civilians.
 
You.

Please refrain from futher violations of the ToS. Profanity does not make you appear older or wiser nor does it make your point valid or cause others to take you more seriously.
 
So it appears you think it's of little import that innocent Lebanese civilians are being killed left right and center because Israel is going after Hezobollah militants.

It's exactly that attitude that keeps the cycle of violence spinning for all time.

Smooth... real smooth.
 
The Israeli terror machine cares little for the loss of innocent civilian life, or for the missery and suffering that they cause.

The big problem in the Middle East is that there is one set of rule for Israeli's, another for everyone else, until this is rectified and Israel is bought to account there will never be peace in the Middle East
 
That would make sense, help them rather than murdering civilians and destroying the country.
 
I would submit that killing the majority of Hezbollah's members and then handing the area over to the Lebanese Army (which is one of Israel's requests) would be doing just that, wouldn't it?

To be honest though, I have a hard time understanding why Israel thinks it can get the Lebanese Army to establish security in the area by bombing Lebanese Army posts. You don't get the neighbor kid to mow your lawn by slapping the taste out of his mouth.
 
And Hezbollah or Hamas do? If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
 
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