Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Maybe go into some sort of government building (post office?) and have a background check done there?
Or maybe have the BUYER required to have a background check done on themselves and then a certificate issued (like a CRB check when you apply for a job) that lasts for 10 days which they can present when they want a gun?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

If the buyer was required to background check themselves then you could still have gun shows because then people intending to go to the gun show could apply for a certificate before they go and present it on the day if they wanted a gun.
Change the onus from the seller to the buyer.
You could even charge a minimal fee for the check ($20?) that would then go to fund gun awareness, education, gang culture outreach, victim support, etc etc.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I had to submit myself to a Counter Terrorism Check just to be allowed to handle passports at work.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I believe that private gun sales would need to be certified by a licensed gun dealer, who can do a background check.
 
(1)As I said driving on public roads is not a right and gun ownership is.

In all most every state to carry a gun concealed you must pass more checks and training.

As for buying a gun I am open to background checks being made better however requiring them for private sales would be hard on the private sell and I would not support it unless it was made convent.

(2)I had to look up the Kindersurprise egg and it’s a stupid law and we already have Crackerjacks here that is basically the same thing.
Yes I’m happy the gun ownership is a right and requires judicial action to remove that right.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

And how would any of this not be an infringement especially for those living in the rural areas of our country?
 
infringe-"To encroach on someone or something"

Yes it does so I don’t support universal background checks for all private sales.

We can still talk about gun show sales but not all private sales.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I'm sorry, but I don't think country folks are going to have too much trouble finding a gun store - you know, since the more rural the state, the greater the gun ownership.

And I'm guessing, in genuine problem areas, local law enforcement could certify the sales.

I'm not sure I can take you seriously if you're genuinely against universal background checks. It's such a ridiculously extreme position to take that it's a waste of bandwidth talking with you about it. I'd have more luck convincing the guys over at Stormfront that all races are equal.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Why would it be an infringement if "John Rural" had to pop into his local post office, sheriff's dept, police station or town hall to pick up a certificate before heading over to "Bob Country's" house to buy a gun off him?
Especially if such a check stopped "Joe Mental-Problems" from getting hold of a gun?

What's being infringed in that scenario?
A gun is still sold, a gun still bought and a gun still owned.
The situation would still be as it is now but with the addition of background checks on all gun ownership transfers.
Which even pro-gun people tend to agree are good things.
But now they are an infringement because "John Rural" might have to go 50 miles out of his way or wait a couple more hours before getting his hands on a gun?
 
Well I guess you don’t know much about the rural areas of the US because the area where my mother side of the family lives as the nearest town with a total pop of about 300. The nearest gun store is a good hour drive and the only cops are county cops with no local station.
Private sale of guns is a regular thing.




I don’t find non support of universal background extreme at all. I think it should be more of a state thing to put restrictions on guns and not a federal.

The Stormfront thing is a cheap shot and noted.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Yes it would be an infringement and an unnecessary one.

See my post #838

And what are the numbers concerning guns bought from rural private sellers ending up in the hands of people they shouldn’t be.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I don't think an hour drive is really that great a burden.

...I think the problem with state wide restrictions is that you end up with a situation where people who want to buy a weapon without submitting to a background check need only drive a few hours to another state that doesn't have universal background checks. That causes the system to fall over.

It wasn't intended as such, I was just trying to think of a really fruitless online argument. I can see that it might appear out of order, so I apologise if it offended.
 
No idea. Just trying to think of ways to stop kids getting killed while at school and ways to reduce the amount of Americans that shot every year.
The pro-gun people are saying that guns aren't the problem it's gangs and mental health issues.

But now you're saying that a way of helping keep guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed people (universal background checks) is too much of an incovenience for you because you might have to go for a drive beforehand?
I bet you've driven more than an hour each way to go to a gun show, football game, Nascar race, or some other event.
But when you want a gun it has to be convenient and just round the corner?
I drove 45 minutes each way last week to visit Ikea and they didn't even have the shelves I wanted!
I thought American's didn't think anything of driving 200 miles?

How many times in your life do you need to buy a gun?
2? 3?
I see no reason why such a low number of purchases of deadly weapons over a lifetime shouldn't be an inconvenience.
There should be hoops to jump through.

It's almost like you don't want to control who has a gun?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I see the hour drive as unnecessary infringement as do the majority of people.
I understand the person driving out of state but here states rights is an issue and different laws in different states is a normal thing.
I have a concealed carry permit and many states to the south and west honor it so I can carry in their state but I go north they do not honor it. Which is fine because I see as their right as long as it passes constitution muster.




Understood and we most likely will never agree on this as we come from different countries and different back grounds.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Post office?

So you're OK with people who should not be allowed to own a firearm aquiring one because driving a bit is a bit inconvenient? I guess your folks never go out to do groceries?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

How many times have you personally bought a gun privately?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Don't you have the "right" to earn a living? Hasn't driving become essential in that pursuit? The last time I was in the USA, if you couldn't drive and didn't live in a major metropolitan area. You were basically house bound.

Being able to drive is far more essential in America in the modern day than owning a gun is.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

But it's not the majority of people. Almost 90% of Americans support universal background checks. You couldn't get polling like that on a 'hugs for orphans' bill.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I have 10 or 15 guns (mostly hunting types) and I have no idea how many I have had over my life time.

We already have control on guns and we will look at other and a few they purposed I might support depending how they are worded and enforced,
Like I said I support more state by state action on this.
 
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