Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Anora

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

They support some form of universal back ground checks (for dealers and maybe gun shows) but the support for all private back ground checks is not a majority.
 

MerrynBobDude

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Why do you need, or feel you need, so many guns?
Is it just accumulation over time as you've upgraded to a better one?
15 different sorts of game?
 

JJapplesauce

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Background checks, keeping guns from mentaly ill, young people(illegal to buy a gun under 18 in most places), and violent offenders is an infringment on the second ammendment as it has no provisions for these things. These however are perfectly reasonable infringments. Just like I have freedom of speech until I start slandering others. Or freedom of religon until I decide on raping children in my cult or some other such dispicable behaivor.
PA- Background check done beforehand buy the buyer seems like a great idea to me.
On convenient background checks. In the mid 90's, in Illinois, I worked the sporting goods department. To sell a gun we called a number to the state police and gave the buyers info. A short time later (within min) a call back was recieved with an authorisation #, or a rejection. I thought this was very reasonable and minimaly intrusive. I can't see why every state could not do this. It would be ideal (I think) for private sales .
About backgroundcheck fees- The problem I have with this is our gov. has a history of instating reasonable fees, only to later increase them to unreasonable rates to effectivly bypass the legislative system. I am specificaly thinking of FFL deals who had their rates increased in an effort to shut down all but high volume dealers.
 

greendawn

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Yeah...it was a sort of throw-away thought but seems a good way to go to me.
If "you" want a gun then "you" have to do the leg-work to get one.



Heh...or that. Use the telephone. That seems obvious. You could even use a mobile phone and then the seller could drive to old shadows house to give him a gun to stop him from having to leave the house.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

My background check to get my Browning BPS at Sportsman's Warehouse took 20 minutes (counting the time spent filling out paperwork) and cost $10.

I am fully in support of universal background checks. We have laws saying who is not allowed to own guns (i.e., felons and domestic abusers) and this is how we enforce it. People say "enforce the laws we have" and this is one such enforcement mechanism.
 

PARKERD

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

That sounds utterly reasonable to me. If you're going to have civilian gun ownership then that would seem to be the very least that should happen before you get to take one home.
 

CaroleL

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Why does a person need to present himself physically at a gun dealership?

If the DVA don't need to physically see me to assess my security clearance application, then why would a gun dealer? Surely a form that you send away would work fine in such a situation.
 

Cookies4U

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Because you're fingerprinted as part of the background check and your picture ID is confirmed in person.
 

Ria900

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Some have been given to me (the long guns) and I have restored some of them and I like collecting older ones especially.

I have a few hand guns to carry at different times depending on where I’m going and what I’m wearing.
 

Idream@niteZ

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

The finger printing is excessive. If the UK government doesn't think they need to fingerprint me when they are giving me access to state secrets, I hardly think the US government needs to fingerprint you to give you access to a firearm.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

All gun owners should have to have a signed character reference from a respected member of the community in good standing and reputation.

I have to say I went through more background checks to become a volunteer dog walker at the RSPCA than some Americans go through to get a gun.
Now...does that seem right to anyone at all?
 

little_squee

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

The finger print is use for a criminal back ground check as you could have fake ID. This was only required of me when I was applying for a CC permit.
 

EV

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

It may be strange to you but things and rights are different here.

Would the KKK holding a rally be a strange and not legal there?

They are crazy but they can hold rallies all they want here.
 

rorybuns

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Same anywhere else - provided it stays within parameters...which is the same as in the US
 

Amkii

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Probably fine I think. The EDL and extreme Muslim groups do "let's see who can be most hateful" marches and rallys all the time.

What's strange to me is that someone would complain about having to drive for an hour and jump through some legal hoops, as if convenience itself was a human right, if it potentially prevented even just one child from being gunned down by setting up tighter gun control and enforcement.
It's not strange that people do things differently in other countries.
But it's strange that fairly simple background checks for owning deadly weapons (cue someone mentioning swords, cars and/or swimming pools?) aren't routine, widespread and country wide.
 

EvanS

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

In 2013 it should be effectively impossible to fake an ID well enough to fiddle such a background check. All they'd have to do is check the ID number and confirm the photo on the record is the photo on the ID.
 

infinate_cold

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Actually, private sellers may sell new firearms, but the ATF has a watch dog group

I have personally witnessed some agents grab a guy privately selling a few new guns at a show

That all said, manufacture has to halt...there are enough out there
 

quantum_0813

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Actually, to complete a used car sale, all you need is a notary on the bill of sale

Which could be a good idea for private gun sales...via a notary
 

FannyBag

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I somewhat agree...but wasnt your post also about storing/securing the guns at the club?
 

tropicballoon56

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Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

This is where perhaps a new law could be that private sales via a notary


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