Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

A clip is not quite the same thing as a magazine. A clip--whether it be a stripper clip, an en bloc clip, or a speedloader (aka moon clip)--feeds ammunitiion into a fixed internal magazine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_(ammunition)

Detachable box magazines are often called "clips" but they're not quite the same thing. Normally this sort of thing I'd dismiss as semantic nit-picking and wouldn't even mention it, but in the era of "assault weapons" bans, semantics have started to really matter.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I was foolin around.

I know clip is a moronic term

Just like non martial artists naming Judo (or any other), "Karate"
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I'm sorry but humor is not allowed on this site except for ninja and wing chun threads. Well maybe chi, but nothing else.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Thanks to Hollywood, they are the same.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I was gonna blame video games, but yeah, media has equated the same and now they're generally treated as synonyms.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Oathbreakers means people who broke their sworn word. Can you name any signatory who had not sworn to the Crown as a Lawyer, public official, etc?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Does this bother you?

Your only an oathbreaker if you loose. If you win you are a champion against tyranny. Also, if I remember correctly King and Parliament weren't exactly keeping the promises they had made either.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I expect the American founders would reply the Crown broke the oath first by not taking care of the colonies, which was thier part of the bargin. Here is a list of the issues they had with the King.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

After they started breaking the laws of the colonies. The earlier issues could have been resolved without bloodshed.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Also many of the acusations made against the crown there could be applied to the actions of the continental congress against the republic of vermont, one of your allies.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I've never played a video game that called it a clip. What game does that so I can add it to my banned game list?

I personally enjoy the popularity of the usage. It's a signal that I can stop taking the person speaking seriously and let my brain shut down and divert necessary processing power to topics like poop and monkeys while the person carries on.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I did not intend to say they founding fathers were blameless. They were men, both good and bad, just like the rest of us. As for resovling those issues without bloodshed, I'm not so sure. As I understand (I could be wrong here) at the time, the Crowns view of colonies (all of them) was that they existed to make money for the Crown through trade and taxes. It seems unlikly to me that the Crown would have comprimised with the colonials in any real way.
There is plenty of blame to go around on this one!
 
I agree with much of your post and it's all done and dusted now anyway. Even under the new proposals (protectionism and all trade to go through Britain) the tax burden on the colonials was less than the tax burden for people in Britain. As for making money for the Crown, that was why the Crown granted settlement rights at all, rather than going for the French model as used in Canada.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

One of my friends posted this to facebook and it made me chuckle. It is a good response for the argument that we don't need self-defense measures in a society with police. Why does it need to be an either-or choice?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Actually it's a pathetic response. They don't even come close to being equivalent. Fire extinguishers are good for small fires only. And even then the fire service would prefer you just get out of the building and sound the alarm.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Mitlov I like that pic!

I Cant believe this topic has over 1000 replies. Sorry I cant add much to the arguing. Just watch Karl Pilkington and be happy!
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

No one is saying that you don't need guns because you have police.
More police is actually something the pro-gun side are suggesting IIRC.
We (and by that I mean me) are saying you don't need guns for self defence if you create a society where the vast majority of peope, including criminals, also don't have guns.

Police I think, for the most part, perform a mopping up role after a crime has been committed.
They occasionally are in the right place at the right time but they can't be everywhere.
Having enough police to actually prevent crime would be prohibitively expensive and liable to be cut when people realise they are paying police to basically hang around all day.
 
Actually it’s a good comparison.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Barillari v. City of Milwaukee

Bowers v. DeVito

DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services

Warren v. District of Columbia

Riss v. New York

Lynch v. N.C. Dept. of Justice,


It’s the individuals responsibly to provide the first response to protect themselves, their families and they may and most likely should help protect other citizens.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Isn't the police motto "protect and serve"?
Or is that only LAPD or NYPD?



So if a police officer is walking past as I'm being attacked, constitutionally, he doesn't have to help me?
 
That motto is on a lot of police cars and most do their best but they are under no legal obligation to provide protection.

In the case you stated no constitutionally he doesn’t have to help you. He can weigh officer safety and wait for back up. More to the point if you are being attacked and are hiding behind the dumpster or whatever and call 911 and tell them this guy is trying to kill you and they don’t get there in time to help you for whatever reason, like the cop decides that your call should not come first over whatever he is doing then the cop/police department cannot be held responsible legally or civilly.

Most cops will go above and beyond but in comes down to what your personal responsibility is and that is you are the first line of defense.
 
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