Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

in texas it can be carried around the street and in hunting it will easily bring down a deer 150 meters away. its also for catastrophys that sometime occure for protection.it has many uses:
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

whats a normal gun owner? i dont know any in the U.S.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

So seeing as it is so versatile is that the only gun you own?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

yes i also have a mini 14, love it
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I've been debating gun control with Mitlov for weeks now.
One of his main points is that guns have legitimate uses (sport, self defence, home defence and/or hunting for example) and so should be available to own (albeit with checks).
Your Yugo AK isn't really for any of those purposes and as such seems an off thing to allow people to own, even if you favour gun ownership in the way Mitlov does.
Just by reading your thread it's clear you don't own that gun for those reason's either (talking about bayonet lugs and stuff) . You just like guns.
Just liking or desiring something shouldn't be the barometer of whether it can actually be owned IMHO.
Especially If such freedom to own such things creates a culture where people die in great numbers because of it.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

no i have a yugoslavian underfolder ak47, a mini 14 223 cal, an 40 cal xd pistol ,a 1911 springfield 45cal pistol, a sig sauer 9mm pistol and a marlin 22 long rifle, and im going to get some more later
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

you dont think a yugo ak47 is for self defence also i have never talked about bayonet lugs and stuff you are wrong.i own guns for defence,to defend myself and loved ones.i dont think you understand the climate in america.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

In relation to the earlier exchange......

If I were to lose it and go postal (which I am NOT I hasten to add) I have more than enough ways to damage someone with my Glock 22 service pistol. I have 3 mags with15 rounds in each of .40S&W that I carry daily (even at a desk job)

I don't go banzai just because I am off duty (in fact i amm LESS likely to as I don't have the same stresses)

Now with that said, I also have to requalify 4 times a year and prove competency - to my mind introducing an annual requalification for any civilian is not only a reasonable suggestion it is common sense. This is not compulsory anywhere, but it damn well should be!
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I agree. Bear in mind me and Mitlov crossed wires.
He thought I was talking about your desire to look like the Lone Ranger when I wasn't.

Maybe getting requalify every year might be a bit much?
Maybe every 2-5 years?
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

yes the same yugo underfolder, i dont have a camera. i have to requalify for my concealed handgun license every 5 years
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I do enjoy "plinking" - To be honest I have as much fun with my Crosman 1377c as any other gun
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

In an ideal world it would be fine. I'd do it myself.
We don't live in that world though.
We live in a world where people own a gun and then go and shoot other people.

And again...I don't find an AK scary.
It's just unnecessary. Even in a culture that wants guns for SD, hunting etc.
It's a gun designed for soviet soldiers to carry on the battlefield and shoot the enemy.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

And since modern sporting rifles are LESS likely to be used in crimes than other firearms (the AR-15 is the nation's best-selling firearm, yet MSRs as a whole only constitute 1-2% of firearms homicides), I don't make the jump from "they're for unnecessary recreational shooting" to "let's ban 'em!" For the same reason I don't support sports car bans or hard liquor bans (even though theyre equally "unnecessary" when compared to Priuses and red wine).

America's homicide rate has everything to do with meth and gangs and poverty and nothing to do with the legality of the AR-15 and AK-47.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Most consumer items are unnecessary. Microbrews are unnecessary because we have Budweisser. BMW's are unnecessary because we have Fords. Good music is unnecessary because we have Disney pop singers. The iPad is unnecessary because we have cameras and we have laptops. The UFC is unnecessary because we have boxing. On and on an on.

"It's unnecessary" is an irrelevant argument.



And Japanese jujitsu is a martial art designed to kill soldiers on a battlefield. Hey, our entire hobby -- the martial arts -- is the study of how to injure if not kill people. Let's ban martial arts. We can all take up yoga and ballet for exercise, instead.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

It's not irrelevent when people keep bringing up how guns are "tools" and have multiple uses.
And then own guns that are poorly suited to those uses.
An AK47, in a modern western society, is a tool with no job to do (apart from making the owner feel better or safer).



If trained martial artists were causing as many deaths as shootings in America I'd be pro-martial arts control too.
Let me know when we reach that level and we can start a new thread about it.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

Dude, taking my neighbor's toys away because I don't like them, is itself evil. Yes, it is.
We should flee that, not promote that.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

To me, a gun is most often a tool for fun. That is its most common use to me. An AK47 is well suited to that use! Your days are numbered milk jugs filled with water!
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I find it very hard to view guns as tools, toys or fun when children are getting shot and all that.
 
Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"

I think you need to prove two things before you ban something: (1) it's unnecessary, and (2) it's proven to be more dangerous in public use than other legal alternatives.

The second half of your post proves to me that you recognize principle (2) as well. Even though ju-jitsu is unnecessary, you support its legality because it's not proven to be more dangerous than other hobbies in the hands of civilians.

Where I start to find serious inconsistencies in your post is when you start talking about banning modern sporting rifles SPECIFICALLY. Because, as I've pointed out repeatedly, in real life, they're used to murder far far LESS often than handguns. They have NOT proven to be more dangerous in the hands of the general public than other firearms.

Like offtopic versus boxing, they "seem" more dangerous than the alternative (that's why offtopic was banned in many US states in the 1990s), but casualty statistics simply don't back up that gut reaction.

So why are you so adamant about banning MSRs given affirmative evidence that they're used far less frequently for murder per firearm or per owner than other sorts of firearms?

Modern sporting rifles are to firearms what mastiffs are to dogs. When you take a look at them, they seem like the most dangerous thing out there (a mastiff is definitely more visually intimidating than a pitbull). And there's no "need" for a dog that big with jaws that strong. And their original purpose in the middle ages was war and fighting. But when you actually look at statistics, mastiffs are far less likely to be involved in violence than other breeds (particularly pitbulls and rottweilers, the handguns of dogs). So would you support a mastiff ban, even though it's been proven that in real life they're responsible for fewer casualties per capita than less "theoretically lethal" dogs?
 
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