Orthodox Judaism; Is the rejecting of a 1st century messiah existing only...

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...based on Christian bias toward it? Orthodox Jewish usually will disagree with Christianity's interpretation of the 1st century Judea. But this is the question I want to ask to theistic members of Orthodox Judaism,

Does Orthodoxy reject the idea of God sending a messiah based on Christian apologetics and interpretation of the 1st century, or does Orthodoxy totally reject that a single Messianic figure existed? Rather it be he or she to have been born in 37 BCE or 4 CE.

This question is based on the idea of a end time messiah of the 1st century. Please don't bring up any fore thought of Christ returning to then argue things he didn't do. I am asking if Orthodox Judaism believes God prepared a Messianic figure against Herodian Jerusalem in the 1st century.

 

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No. Period.

 

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The biggest misconception out there is that Christians somehow think that Judaism and Christianity are similar religions..that Jews just don't see that Jesus was the messiah. However, they don't realize their religion is just about the antithesis of Judaism, on every level since it was created as a replacement theology.
What DEFINITION of Messiah are you using? Are you referring to the Davidic messiah of the Tanakh? The redefined NATURE and role of the New Testament ( a Hellenized/Romanized theology designed to negate Torah and replace it) or the simple meaning of the word in Hebrew that refers to all anointed rulers of Israel? ( oh and even the NON Jewish King Cyrus of Persia was called messiah, directly in the Tanakh, for his righteous rule )
There were many messiah hopefuls who lived during the 1st and second centuries. None actually ruled except for one.
Simeon Bar Kochba in the *second* century was an actual messiah for a very short time. The Roman Empire had to enlist the aide of almost half their forces to bring him to defeat. ( He left artifacts contemporary to his lifetime showing that he actually ruled briefly in Israel) He had been hoped to be the Davidic messiah, but his murder at the hands of the Romans ..without the job of the Davidic messiah having been accomplished..saw to the end of that hope for him. Of course.. believing Jews could never have and never did look to him as a medium of atonement, an incarnate deity nor to his death as a sacrifice for sin..because those aspects of belief were foreign to and forbidden directly by the Torah ( and were beliefs of the Hellenized apostate Jews and Roman citizens who believed in incarnate deities!)
The Davidic messiah will usher in a world of peace, of justice, mercy, brotherhood and universal knowledge of God.

The hopes of a messiah who would fulfill a role of deliverance of Jews from their Roman occupiers was very strong in the 1st century. Their belief was and actually remains that in every generation there is someone born who could fulfill the role. The job remains undone. The belief that there is a potential in this generation is also remaining in Judaism, too. There is debate of what will bring about the fulfillment of the Messianic prophetic vision..some believe that it won't happen until the world is on the brink of destruction of humanity from a generation wholly corrupt with only a remnant striving to justice, righteousness and mercy,and others believe that it will be a collective awakening of human consciousness to how our actions have enabled suffering and injustice that will see to all humans striving to righteousness thus empowering such a person to gain rule through our collective repentance and actions in striving to righteousness.
Sages of the First Century also debated those ideas.
It makes no difference if it's Jesus or Bar Kochba or any other of the dozens of failed messiah hopefuls, or if you ask not to bring up the fact that not one messianic hopeful has done the job, that's still an objective physical fact facing every living human on earth.
If you are asking about the Christian redefinition of "messiah" that makes a person God incarnate or a medium of atonement ..that's simply foreign to Judaism, forbidden by eternal Jewish law and remains irrelevant to Judaism.
If you are asking Jews about the definition of "messiah" of Torah and Tanakh and Judaism, you have no need to pose the question as you did. The "rejecting" of anyone as a messiah for Jews will always remain soley the fact of whether or not the JOB has been completed. Objective physical evidence doesn't require debate to determine if it has or hasn't happened. If the Davidic messianic prophetic vision of Judaism and Tanakh had taken place, there would be world peace, universal brotherhood and universal knowledge of humanity's direct connection to the Divine.
The fact there is bigotry, war, injustice and people who worship a man as a deity and more obvbiously ....missionaries...to try to convince people that a job that no one has ever accomplished is "fulfilled"..is the most obvious objective evidence there could be that the Davidic messiah's job remains UNfulfilled.
The other most glaring bit of evidence...and one that shows the antithetical nature of the NT concept of messiah to that of the Torah....and Judaism is that there are people who believe that one must worship their "messiah" or pray to or through any human as an incarnate deity.
Learn at the links below the differences between the two religions concepts and why "bias" could have no effect on whether or not someone is called a messiah in Judaism.
If the person is an anointed ruler/king of Israel, they're a messiah. If the job of the prophetic vision of the *Davidic* messiah happens..then the whole world will know and won't need any sales pitch by anyone to convince them.

 

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The caution about Messianic teachings also stems from the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Jewish revolt against the Romans had disastrous results. The idea that God was supporting them through a military leader ended up with the destruction of the Temple and the extermination of the priestly and ruling class.