[POLITICS] We are now represented by racists!!

It's ok. The Red Machine of Russia will come and save us from the dread of far rightism. Might take a few years, but Uncle Joe will rise with his hammer and sickle and send Mr. Griffin running.

To be honest, I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill (and using blanker's ill-thought comments as a shooting range).

These monkeys (regardless of Garth's eleoquant arguement) will never get into any form of power. We're getting all excited over European elections which, lets be frank, nobody in the UK actually cares about (supported by the downturn in voters). Let them crow about 2 seats out of the UK's 68, it's probably the best they'll get anyway. The fact that we have the migrant workers just goes to show how far some people will go to make a crust for their families (you'd all do the same) and how lazy we've become as a nation when we expect the government to safeguard jobs for us because we want more money to do jobs.
 
my point about dying at 45 was to do with the british empire and how it advanced the whole human race and as bad as it was we all benifit from it today.

yep im not white and not that it should matter or should i be obliged to point it out but i dont support the bnp but i do believe that everyone should be treated as equals and so can see why some poeple would support the bnp.
 
The BNP are a white sepratist party who's policies are based on the concept of racial nationalism, the same as the Nazis. It is a simple as that. They hide behind their popular working class policies but read there manifestos and do some research! If you vote BNP, whatever your reasons, you voted for a neo-nazi party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOc9lAG6tCw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS6piaPYNNE&feature=related
 
very true but we live in a democracy so people have a right to believe in whatever thay want and to vote for who ever thay choose. its absolute belief wich is dangerous thats what the nazis islam christians communist and the currant left wing facists have in common.

you or me or anyone else may not believe in what the bnp say but to believe that thay dont have a right to is very dangerous. you cant say there wrong to believe in what thay do as after all our beliefs are largely a matter of faith.
 
Polar Bear posted



When we have X amount of million unemployed and yet we are asking people to come here to work because they are cheaper, then there is a problem.

I have no problem when we have full (Or near full) employement, but when we have unemployed plumbers, bricklayers, plasterers etc who cannot get a job, and are losing their houses it makes little sense to employ someone from overseas to do the same job at half the money and then not get them to pay tax.



Right so in your opinion its ok to allow british workers to go to the wall whilst fat cats can make millions.



I have no problem with trade from overseas, none at all, and if we get cheap goods all the better. but no good having cheap goods if you have no money to buy them because your unemployed, because immigrants are taking your jobs.



And this has to do with what exactly?



Right so every British person has no culture, right.

Garth
 
Firstly, we do not live in a country of total free-speech. Inciting racial hatred is a crime and one that I agree should be.

The thing is I honestly think most people who vote BNP are not aware of their racist policies. It's funny, it's exam period at the moment (I am at university, studying politics) and my exam tomorrow is on Fascism. It is interesting to note that under the Nazis, the majority of normal Germans had no idea that millions of Jews were being exterminated in Death camps and I am sure many would have been outraged and not so supportive of the Nazis if they knew. The BNP's tactics as classic Fascist tactics, they promote popular policies aimed at, the lower middle and upper working classes. This gains them mass support. However they don't tell people the true nature of what they want to achieve.
 
the nazi were also the first people to ban smoking and hunting, remind you of anyone. no politic party does what thay say thay are going to thats the big joke about politics and why theres so much dislike of politians today.

the fact that we are banning free speech and discriminating against one group of people in favour of another imo isnt a positive thing and has more akin to nazis then a party that will never get into power.
 
Why everytime I have hired a Pole, I get the job done at a better standard, politely, on time and they clean up after themselves. When I hire Brits I'm just relieved they show up. We've become lazy and it's about time we got shown up for what we are. The rule of nature, compete or die.


Yes, if you believe in Captialism. If you haven't got anything worth selling then you have no value in a Capitalist system. It was all fine and dandy while we exploited foreign workers but now the shoe is on the other foot we're getting a microscopic taste of what life is like for most of the human race.


Most don't. A sad but harsh truth.

The Bear.
 
holyhead TCJ posted



Tell that to the people working in the building trade that now find themselves unemployed becuaes of cheap labour.

Garth
 
polar bear, what are you going to do if the poles all go back to polska? thay are not really making a wage you can live comfortably on and alot are returing to poland as the economy there is doing much better. are we just going to keep on exploiting the youth of other countrys?

what if the poles were coming for middle class jobs? i feel your opinion would be very different, infact since we dont have technipolitans any more (which caused the problem in the first place) everyone has a degree and the wage you could get with a middle class job is going down.
 
Llamageddon posted



Well it wasnt exactly made by the BNP, after all it was hardly scripted. the lady said what she said, the BNP got hold of it and put a title on it.

Hardly making a video is it.

Garth
 
blanker posted



actually the Poles are returning because the czechs will work even cheaper, talk about exploitation.

look we are talking about racism, what is worse than paying a worker cheap money.

basically its saying 'look your a pole, your not worth as much as a British worker, so we will pay you less"

And thats not racist?

Garth
 
the nazi were also the first people to ban smoking and hunting,

They were right about some things then?
 
Paying someone for labour isn't exploitation. However the Poles I know here aren't just here for money. They are here for a lifestyle and freedom they don't have in Poland ... yet. Bottomline if they go back, I'll wish them well.


Don't even dare play middle-class card with me lad, I grew up in Glasgow slums and was homeless at 12. I earned everything I got with my two hands though intelligence, hard work and ruthlessness. The middle classes are the ones who need the wake up call most.

The Bear.
 
thats very true. i have a polish friend who is a professor of something or other and speaks about 4 langueges but has to do agancy work because he cant get a decent job. if he was british he would be on very high wages in this country.
 
Polar bear posted



YouTube - The result of a POLISH plumbers work in a house in Cork. . .

I posted




Polar bears reply



Speak for yourself

Garth
 
It doesn't matter who made it - the fact it has been endorsed by a group (BNP or anyone) means it's saying something that group want you to hear - all connotations attached.

Without trying to make any sort of argument, I'd be genuinely interested to see what people consider British culture to be.
 
you obviously dont know alot of polish people, most of the poles i know ( and i do happen to know alot) live in a shared bed sit with 2 or more other poles.



but you would rob a modern day kid from doing the say?
 
I've just been drawing Hitler moustaches on the photos in the Newspapers at the garage.
 
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