Using this argument, arent all muslims actually following Judaism?

Muslims keep saying that Abraham, Jesus, Moses etc were muslims because they prostrated in prayer and submitted to God/the Father. Well, this was done before Islam was here and that was the way in which Jews worshipped. In fact submitting to God's will was and is a requirement in Judaism. Isn't it therefore only reasonable to say that it is the muslims who are following Judaism and not vice versa?
 

ememech

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The name Islam and the believers of One and Only Almighty God Muslims are from the inception of the world. Adam, Noah, David, Solomon, Joseph, Abraham, Ishmael, Ishak, Jacob, Lote, Moses and Jesus were taught One and Only Almighty God.

Though the religious covenants and not available or altered, deleted, added, even now you see several verses to proof that there is no god other than God. Muslims believe 'No god but Allah'

Read Bible carefully its mentioned in several places. But the trinity had been added in the year 325 AD by a king called Constanttine says, Wikipaedia.

Bible's first commandment says, ONE GOD.

Muslims follow this One God Policy and worships One and Only Almighty God ( the Arabic name of the Almighty God is ALLAH)
 
Thus why they are all "Abrahamic" religions. Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Islam came after Christianity which came after Judaism. Thus your argument also includes Christianity for Christians also do the same thing. Except Christianity has too many splinter groups to actually believe which is the RIGHT way to be Christian.

Furthermore, Muslims revere these men because they all were servants of God. Prophets who carried God's word to the people.

In the end, all the three major religions are parallels to each other. They all have the same basic beliefs such as being moral, submitting oneself to God, following religious traditions and services such as prayer, fasting and what not.
 

brenda

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NO NO AND NO! Follow closely: Abraham had 2 sons: 1.Ishmael 2.Isaac. Isaac had Jacob (Israel) who had 12 sons and of course the older brothers of Joseph sold him into Egypt and was given so much land and food. Jacob had 12 sons and one was Judah who is the father of the Jewish lineage. Moses got all the Israelities out of Egypt and wandered in the desert for 40 years as God knew they were not righteous enough to go directly to the promised land and so let one generation pass away before the tribes took up the promised land.
NOW GOING BACK TO THE FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM = Ishmael
We in the Christian world are accustomed to think of Abraham’s descendents in terms of Isaac, Jacob, and the Israelites. Many of us forget that through Abraham’s first-born son—Ishmael, whose name is translated as “God heareth”—another great nation developed which has also influenced the course of history.
The scriptures suggest that at least one of the promises given to Abraham applies equally to both Ishmael and Isaac. Long before either Ishmael or Isaac was born the Lord promised Abraham: “And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing … [to] all families of the earth” (Gen. 12:2–3). Although we accept a specific role for the House of Israel, in a general sense it is true that the descendents of both Ishmael and Isaac have been “great” in population and achievement, a blessing to mankind. The Lord gave Abraham a second promise: “Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them. … So shall thy seed be” (Gen. 15:5). Later, when Hagar conceived Ishmael, an angel echoed Abraham’s promise: “I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude” (Gen. 16:10).
It is interesting that the children of both Isaac and Ishmael have desired to apply the scripture given to Abraham:
“This is my covenant which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised” (Gen. 17:10, 25). Circumcision has been a custom of the Jews (Israelites) as well as of the Arabs (Ishmaelites) since that time.
God further promised Abraham: “And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, … all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession” (Gen. 17:8). Again, this promise has been fulfilled for both Ishmael and Isaac, since both Arabs and Jews have resided there. Indeed, the scriptures prophetically and accurately said, “And he [Ishmael] shall dwell in the presence of his brethren” (Gen. 16:12).
The Lord describes Ishmael’s descendents, the Arabs, in these terms: “And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation” (Gen. 16:12; Gen. 17:20).
According to the Koran, Abraham brought Ishmael and his mother to Arabia and settled them near what was to become the great city of Mecca. Eventually the descendents of Ishmael’s twelve sons began to fill the Arabian peninsula. The Biblical account, though it differs in specifics, suggests also that Hagar and Ishmael were directed in their wanderings. Genesis recounts that an angel of the Lord comforted and preserved them, and that “God was with the lad [Ishmael].” (See Gen. 21:14–20.)
We are familiar with the history of Jacob’s twelve sons—the twelve tribes of Israel; but we are not equally familiar with the history of the twelve sons of Ishmael, a great and noble tradition that has created one of the truly great cultures of the world—the Islamic culture.
The Muslim’s religion permeates his life from dawn to nightfall and from his inner chamber to his shop in the crowded marketplace, with a thoroughness that most Christians are often slow to understand. Many Westerners have secularized such large areas of their lives that they have forgotten what it is to live a life in which every activity is religiously oriented.
Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have reached a new threshold in the gospel’s expansion throughout the world. As Africa and Asia become a part of our great missionary program, we need a new sensitivity to the history, cultures, and religions of these areas. We cannot be friends with a person or community if we disdain or ignore what that person or community most deeply cherishes. I strongly feel that we must appreciate the Arab’s feeling for his language, his prophet, Muhammad, the religious duties of the Muslim, and the remarkable civilization Islam produced.
Muhammad, the Arab Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca about A.D. 570. Muslims claim that like Jeremiah, Muhammad at first doubted his capacity to speak as a prophet.
 
Muslims are not following Judaism. There are tons of religious differences between the two but I would admit that they're speaking of the same God. The God of Abraham who is Yahweh described the a title of royalty. The el or ilah.
 

DeeptiLol

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abrahmic religion have connections with each other .
but man think how digusting are non abrahmic religion for eg hinduism it is based on myths and fake stupid stories , hindus god pictures &statues are rediculous dude. sexy & nude images in temples &kamasutra which is rediculous.. abrahmic religions are better than these fake ones. but
'EAST OR WEST MUSLIMS ARE THE BEST , IDIOTS ARE THE REST'
 

KhalilUllah

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Simply because they do the same thing does not mean they follow, but your thought is a logical and reasonable possibility.

“And when the Magi of Eastern Religions had come into the house, they saw the young Child Jesus with Mary His mother, and fell down (prostrated) and worshiped Him” (Matt 2:11). I believe that at least one of the Magi was a Hunafa, a precursor to islam. Muhammad was a Hunafa, Seeker of Truth. In this respect Muslims worshiped the same way the Magi worshiped Jesus.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are related. Christianity embraced the Tanakh/OT because the OT promised the Christ and the Gospel fulfills the Christ. OT & NT are 100% consistent when we fully understand them. Muhammad, Caliph Abu Bakr and Caliph Uthman believed that the Bible is the unalterable Word of God. While the Bible does not tell Jews and Christians to believe in the Quran, Allah commands Muslims to believe in the Bible. Thus, true Muslims read and follow the Quran.

“Say, ‘We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you (in the Bible); Our Allah and your Allah (of the Bible) is one; and it is to Him we bow’” (Quran 29:46). “‘We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes (of Israel), and in (the Bible) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets (of the Bible), from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)’” (Quran 3:84. See also 2:136). “No change can there be in the words of Allah” (Quran 10:64, also 6:34). “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee (in the Quran), then ask those who have been reading the Bible from before thee” (Quran 10:94)

FYI: Jesus is God in Person. No one has seen God (the Father). Thus, the God who appeared as a person to prophets in the OT was Jesus. In Genesis 18, Jesus the LORD (in all caps versus Lord meaning Master) appeared in person to Abraham. Jesus the LORD also walked and talked with Abraham.

“So the LORD (Jesus) spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. And he would return to the camp, but his servant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart from the tabernacle” (Ex 33:11).

Then the LORD (Jesus) came down in the cloud, and spoke to him, and took of the Spirit that was upon him, and placed the same upon the seventy elders; and it happened, when the Spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied, although they never did so again. But two men had remained in the camp: the name of one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad. And the Spirit rested upon them. Now they were among those listed, but who had not gone out to the tabernacle; yet they prophesied in the camp. And a young man ran and told Moses, and said, "Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp." (Num 11:25-30, NKJV).

According to the Quran, but not yet Islam, salvation is only through the Grace of God (Rahmanullah or Allah rRahman). “None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from Ar-Rahman” (Quran 19:87). But who is Allah Ar Rahman?

“This formula – Bimillahi rrahmani rraheem – is of Jewish origin. It was in the first instance taught to the Koreish by Omayah of Taief the poet (one of the Hanyfs, Sprenger, i.76) who was a contemporary with, but somewhat older than, Muhammad, and who, during his mercantile journeys into Arabia Petraea and Syria, had made himself acquainted with the sacred books and doctrines of Jews and Christians (Kitab al-Aghani, 16, Delhi). Muhammad adopted and constantly used it, and it is prefixed to each Sura except the ninth” (1876 J.M.Rodwell “The Koran”). In the original Aramaic Syriac, this formula would read “Bismilallaha Rahmana Rhima” as Aramaic Syriac uses the word “Allah” or Allaha” for the English word “God.” Syriac Christians at the time of Muhammad called Jesus as Rahmana (1902 H. Hirschfeld “New Researches into the Composition and Exegesis of the Quran).
 
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