Zimmerman Martin Case

[soni]

we can't let it go, especially since racism is still pretty rampant in society. And all races can be racist, my friend's in laws are chinese, and they are racist against her because she is white and they think their son should have married another chinese person. (Never mind the fact she incorporates the culture into her life whenever she can, learned to speak some chinese and makes sure to have her biracial son exposed to both cultures whenever she can. Being totally accepting is not good enough.)

 

[Callilbasketballstarl]

I'm not sure why I think its relevant, but I want to point out that black people jumped and brutally attacked white drivers after the rodney king beating Again, not entirely sure its relevant but its what came to mind after reading your post about the congressman being attacked Gio. Maybe I want t I dunno.o point out racial violence wasn't a one way street

 

[onlyme]

Black people (and from here on, I am thinking "some", but will not keeping typing "some") think they are the sole proprietors to having the racial card.






Jews, for example, do not cling onto it because they moved on as a culture. They will never forget, but they will not look upon it as a victim of it for centuries. Black people desire to remain a "victim", because it suits them to uphold excuses and racism.




TOTALLY AGREE Per my above response



The fact that someone cannot let it go, makes it more of a cry instead of a meaningful outlook. In other words, what happens when a baby cries too much? Or cries to be held most of the time? It gets accustomed to getting a response, even for things it may not actually need at that moment.

When black people (I do not like the term African American, or any other ethnic distinction before "American") speak directly to their experience of slavery, (and it is not from a actual experience) the dominant culture tends to take a pseudo-victim stance, insisting on living it the past to put blame or fault on something or someone else. It is much more "convenient" to blame something or someone else for underachievement. Black people in America insist on speaking the unspeakable. In America, they have it far better than in other countries, especially their native land - Which by the way, they seem to mistakenly cherish and reference it in some sacred manner.


http://kuuleme69.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/slave-mentality-vs-entitlement-mentality-the-downfall-of-the-black-american-community/

http://voices.yahoo.com/blacks-slave-mentality-why-we-still-allowing-ourselves-8365837.html?cat=41

http://gmwilliams.hubpages.com/hub/The-Victim-Mentality-of-Black-Americans

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1108/p09s01-coop.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

 

[katieann]

You're comparing one person brutalized to tens of thousands of people brutalized during the civil rights movement, often by the very same law enforcement officers who were sworn to protect them. It's like asking "but what about all the women who rape men?" in a discussion about rape. Sure, black-on-white violence motivated by racial hatred has happened, but it's so incredibly rare compared to the opposite that it's arguably statistically insignificant when talking about racially-motivated violence. Kind of like how female-on-male rape is statistically insignificant when talking about rape.

 

[umerfarooq]

Uh because slavery died 150 years ago, there is no slavery now so it's a mute issue. Civil rights is pretty much settled as well, I mean blacks are people too, for crying out loud we have a black president, I think we can put that to bed. Now the poverty issue well that's something that needs to be corrected, and pretty much my point for the last few posts. I'm ready to see the country tackle this any time now. But as long as racism is marketable or people don't want to start getting real about the situation then nothing is going to happen.

There's millions of successful black people throughout the world and if you think that any young black man in South Detroit can't be successful, well is that society's fault or is it something else.

 

[panglosswasright]

do some research, when USA had slavery there were white slaves as well.

 

[chris5_4_2]

You do some research.

(1) Indentured servitude was generally in the colonial era (i.e., before the USA existed), and is not remotely the same thing as African-American slavery. It was temporary. It didn't involve another person having power of life or death over you. And it didn't involve another person having the right to sell your spouse or your children for their profit.

(2) "White slavery" typically refers to forced prostitution. A crime, yes, but not the same crime as treating one race of humans as livestock for generation after generation. And of course forced prostitution was just as common among non-white women as white women.

(3) To the extent forced-labor slavery existed with white slaves in the USA, it was statistically insignificant. You may as well be talking about women rapists or African-American lynch mobs killing random white people. I'm sure you can find one or two examples of each. But none are statistically significant, particularly compared to the opposite in American history.

 

[brean]

Yes, and the black slaves that were sold to use were also already slaves, so why doesn't the black population hate the actual African population?

 

[lilswimpunk]

*BOLD* The Main Problem and OBAMA "is as largely" at fault;

-The problem of poverty, i.e. black culture, is once blacks become leaders, or into power, they are more corrupt to not look upon issues of their culture. Instead, using a racial platform for their people in order to get attention for themselves.

In other words, as one of my black teachers put it;

"When blacks get ahead, they have less concerns for their own kind, per the lower class."

Unlike other ethnic groups, when someone gets ahead, they will "look out" for their group. (Not to state that none will take advantage)

You will see more people, outside of the black community, or non-black do more and sympathize, to help black than their own kind

 

[Zezima]

But she doesn't put all of her woes on the German People as a whole.




Thanks-Kuma posted this a few posts back




But, thanks to the efforts of MLK movement, this will least likely happen again. At least not without severe civil consequences




Because it is easier to blame a group of entirely different skin color




But black leaders do not acknowledge the problem with black youth as poverty or crime, they desire to hold onto a racial card just to get the attention in order for them to maintain power.

 

[AlexisInfectious®]

I think your interpretation of historical events is a bit off.

 

[holby]

What age were you in 1965? OH dear some bad men did something bad nearly 50 years ago, my life is ruined.

 

[kelsieb]

That's a bit naive. What happened back then didn't happen in isolation. The civil rights movement brought about an end of the 'Jim Crow' era, but that had existed for a hundred years, since the abolition of slavery.

When slavery was abolished, it's effects didn't just magically disappear overnight. When segregation was abolished, it's effects didn't just magically disappear overnight. These things take time, and they're clearly a damn sight better than they were in 1965. But if anyone thinks that everything is rosy then they really ought to take off the rose-tinted spectacles.

To take one example: black churches are stil getting burned down, and I'm not just talking about the odd one or two. That isn't 1965, that's NOW.

 

[LeggyBlonde]

And bitterly complaining about what happened in the past instead of addressing pressing current issues is one of the many reasons why there is still a hell of a long way to go in both civil rights and social race issues.

 

[lonestarebel]

I agree with that. Personally I don't see anyone complaining about the past, but about the present. There is a whole world of difference between complaining about the past and acknowledging the past and how it has shaped the present. What we're seeing in this thread is a lot of people of the 'I'm not racist, but...' persuasion saying that racism is dead and buried and in the past, so let's pretend that it doesn't exist any more.

 

[DimaS]

I grew up in a sectarian city, religious bigotry still exists, murders happen because someone wears the wrong teams scarf in the wrong area, personaly I can't and don't blame that on the Dutch Revolt, Irish Uprisings, The Potato Famine, The St Bartholemew's Day Massacre, Bloody Sunday, The Loughgall Massacre, The Omagh Bombing, The Shoot To Kill Alegations, The Birmingham Pub bombings, The Shankhill Butchers, I blame it on people who I would describe with a word rhyming with blunts if I could get away with it.

And 1965 is the past,

 

[Superhans]

It's reasonable to blame the people who do it, they are the ones responsible for their own actions. But if you didn't understand the history behind the sectarianism then you wouldn't understand why it still goes on today. You'd have a childs-eye view of things. Which I would imagine is exactly the view that many of the sectarian meatheads have. They probably hate Catholics because their dad told them to when they were growing up. They might have heard of King Billy and 1690 and stuff, but they probably couldn't tell you much about it.

 

[ArielSharon]

how do you interpret the attack on fort sumter?

 

[americanarrayan]

I grew up and still live in the same city as you and it does still happen. It is bred into us and in our city. We have seen and can still see bad things happen and no need to go back as far as 1965.

If you look at the turmoil in Belfast just now with something as minor as removing the union flag you can see the deep hatred that still exist in belfast and Glasgow.

Baza

 

[koyoteekoffin]

Well it depends on how you look at it. Since the south was no longer part of the union at the time and the “foreign” troops were asked to leave but refused.

So the south saw it as kicking the trespassers out.