So millions of Christians for 2000 years, all over the world worship Christ and

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devote their life to him,? Based only on a book filled with contradictions?????????????

The same applies to the other religions, just based on something people, yes people have written, what!!!!!!!!!!

All that illogical, confining, cruel, controlling, contradictory twaddle written by people, just folk,, nothing more and nothing less, seems totally crazy to me.

If someone submitted a book written to the standard of the bible, now, to a publisher, it would be rejected.

Your thoughts please?
Edit: Palin, I am anti theism, not anti theist, I feel they (Christians) are the victims of a massive con and I feel a little sympathy for those who have been indoctrinated.
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Edit: (((Ask a Mexican))) If a book were submitted with that many contradictions, I believe it would be rejected, at least until it was re-written so as not to contradict itself, in my opinion.
Edit: But Bill where does your perception of who and what Jesus, God etc is come from?
I really don't want to hurt your feelings, I think you're a bit special.
Edit: Logan, yet you managed to respond to the question. This is not a work of great literature, a heavy tome, just a question on a forum.
Some contradictions for you:http://www.evilbible.com/contradictions.htm

or
http://www.islamawareness.net/Christianity/bible_contra_101.html
Edit: George Bernard Shaw, No I haven't just realised it, I realised it as a child, but I was curious as to other peoples thoughts.
Edit: Bill, I've never heard of a 'short bus' before, but I get the implication :), but no that's not what I meant.
Compromise? How about we agree:
'There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.'
Hamlet, scene v
 
Many people claim they believe in the Bible, but it isn't really the Bible they believe in, but rather the word of those who told them the Bible is true. Many Protestants claim the the Catholic Church is "of the Devil," but then they claim to believe in the Bible that was brought to them by the Catholic Church.

"Armies of Bible scholars and theologians have for centuries found respected employment devising artful explanations of the Bible not really meaning what it says."
J.S. Bullion, Jr.
 
You see contradictions. I see unity and harmony and a grand theme developing throughout the book, even though it was written by 40 + human authors. I have studied it extensively for nearly 30 years and have seen it's truths borne out in my life and the lives of others. How much have you studied it? Or do you just have faith in someone else's rants and ravings against it?
 
the contradiction part isn't true. Its only true to the wishful thinking crowd.

People have different interpretations of the Bible.

To a Christian, its a rulebook for life given to us by a loving creator that was put together and wrote down by his most devoted followers, through divine direction.

Its not a massive con, there are no big winners.

To somebody else, its a opportunity to give someone a thumbs down because they don't like the person's religious opinion.
 
The Bible is not filled with contradictions, it has a clear and definite beginning, middle and end, yet was written by by authors from different walks of life over a period of more than 1600 years. There are no contradictions in the bible and almost every one of the more than 40 different authors claim that they were writing Gods will.

What contradictions are you referring to? The bible is not a science book, but when it talks about science, it has been proven correct countless times.

I also want to point out that your question is very illogical, too much punctuation and the question itself does not make any sense.
 
My THOUGHTS.. since you asked...

<<So millions of Christians for 2000 years, all over the world worship Christ and devote their life to him,?>> it is actually BILLIONS..but I understand your point.

<<Based only on a book filled with contradictions>>

1) NO, not based SOLELY on a book -- that would be Protestantism, which is statistically a 33% minority of Christians.

2) The bible is a compiled text.. Compiled texts must be read differently be the very nature of the fact that they are composed of different authors over different time periods. There are not many well known compiled texts like the bible. Scholars interpret them differently then a standard novel. You must interpret them in a way in which all the texts come together and work together. To say there are contradictions, breaks the entire concept of a compiled text. They were compiled together because they were interpreted to be harmonious with one another. To look for and dissect it is to try and make 1 author, superior or his words supercede anothers... which breaks the concept of a compiled book.

3) We have to look to WHOM compiled the texts and therefore use THEIR interpretation of them for them to make sense. We need to ask the Jews how they interpreted their compiled texts and the Catholics how they interpret their compiled text, since they assembled the Christian bible. To NOT do that.. again breaks the entire purpose and reason the different books were assembled together.


<<If someone submitted a book written to the standard of the bible, now, to a publisher, it would be rejected.>>

YES, I agree -- because it would be just 1 person submitting it, so it WOULD be contradictory. However, compiled texts are NOT the same as word of literature by a single individual.

Compiled Religious texts are written independently by different authors over time, with little collaboration. Secondly they are generally believed to reveal something divine BEFORE they are assembled together. They are then ASSEMBLED together AFTER they were written by some central authority and given a status of divine revelation based upon their combined meaning.

They are NOT the same as your normal everyday book, because of their origin.


You are right that if one person wrote such a book it WOULD be considered contradictory because it came from 1 guy and had no central authority, nor religious community backing it. It is contradictory for one person to state things in so many different ways. HOWEVER it is NOT contradictory for different people to state concepts in different ways and pointing out different aspects of the same topic. That is actually to be expected.
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Make any sense to you?




Hope that helped.



Shalom! (peace in Hebrew)
 
shouldn't you be writing on a blog?? this sounds like more of a rant to me :P queerrrrrrrrrrr
 
(((Nikon)))

Somebody sure put a bee in your bonnet today...

I wasn't indoctrinated; I grew up in a "typical" Catholic family; we went to church on Sundays and holy days of obligation but Christ didn't carry over into the rest of our lives. In fact, I would say that absent our weekly obligation, we wouldn't have looked like a Christian family to an outside observer.

I don't base my faith in Jesus Christ based only on the Bible but rather because of years of experiencing Him in my adult life. You see, I didn't really experience Him while I was going to church while I was growing up but rather when I returned to a different church after almost a decade's hiatus from church entirely.

I don't believe in Him because of my upbringing but rather because of my life's experience with Him in it.

I believe the Bible to be the divinely inspired word of God; I do not believe the Bible to be the divinely dictated word of God (Thanks, RedQueen for that one!)

Peace, Bill

Edit - I know you can't fathom this but I have experienced Christ in my life in a very real way; it might seem "illogical & delusional" to you but there is nothing in my life more real than Christ.

And by "special" are you insinuating that I rode the short bus to school? (In the states, the mentally challenged ride a different bus to school...)

Ah, Shakespeare - now that is something we DEFINITELY can agree on!
 
The evidence is plentiful. The Word holds the Power of the Spirit unto Faith.


Call it what you want, but unless He gives you the ears for hearing the parables will always be a mystery.
 
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